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Old 02-16-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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Personally, I feel smokers in the park adds security
Just when I thought I heard it all.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Just when I thought I heard it all.

yeah, makes me feel safe with a smoker.

What are they going to blow smoke in a muggers face?
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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Just when I thought I heard it all.

Not the act of smoking that defends them, a mugger doesnt attack when there are other people present(witnesses)

But yes nitpick what I say instead of the whole paragraph..
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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um, I think we all got it...............................I know I did.

But face it, how many people are going to go deep inside of a park at night to smoke?
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:13 PM
 
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1) This will be a law so widely ignored that it will simply build disrespect for law in general.

2) There has never yet been a single scientific study showing any degree of actually harm to people from the levels and duration of smoke exposure that would be encountered at a beach or park.

This is a law purely designed to do what Bloomberg pledged last year: to make smoking as difficult, unpleasant and expensive as possible to socially engineer smokers out of our lives. It's simply taking the theory of training rats with electric shocks and transferring it to controlling people. That's NOT what America is supposed to be about. New Yorkers are NOT rats.


Well said.

The Restaurant/bar ban is first, use the anti-smoking/control freak zealouts to reinforce it on others. Once people acclimate, you take it a step further. Next is ban public open spaces, then use the anti-smoking/other form of control freak zealout to reinforce it on others. Once people acclimate, you take it a setep further, then introduce the next level of social control.

Simple, really
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Old 03-12-2011, 11:34 PM
 
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Well said.

The Restaurant/bar ban is first, use the anti-smoking/control freak zealouts to reinforce it on others. Once people acclimate, you take it a step further. Next is ban public open spaces, then use the anti-smoking/other form of control freak zealout to reinforce it on others. Once people acclimate, you take it a setep further, then introduce the next level of social control.

Simple, really
its called take ur smoke and LEAVE NYC
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Very true Robb. It's called "Divide and Conquer" with the extra spice of being able to the the natives you've conquered and tell them that their suffering will end if they simply help to conquer everyone else. That's exactly what the Antismokers did with the restaurant associations around the country: grabbed the family restaurants and got them to pressure the "full service" restaurants, then got them to push for bar bans, and then they get the bars to push for private club and casino bans...

All in the name of supposedly creating a "level playing field" where everyone will be happy. Of course it doesn't work: the people who go out to play at bars and enjoy sitting around for after-dinner drinks at a restaurant end up spending more evenings at home and the "level playing field" simply becomes the "level playing pit."
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Old 03-23-2011, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I wonder how long it will take before this ban is officially expanded to include rooftops? It seems like that would be an obvious place to go and smoke outside, since rooftops aren't specifically mentioned. They'll certainly give a completely new perspective to the old Drifters song, 'Up on the Roof.'
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Old 03-23-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I wonder how long it will take before this ban is officially expanded to include rooftops? It seems like that would be an obvious place to go and smoke outside, since rooftops aren't specifically mentioned. They'll certainly give a completely new perspective to the old Drifters song, 'Up on the Roof.'

well smoking on rooftops would be a fire hazzard, and that I do have a problem with, a very big problem.

putting a cig out on the roof, then going inside and a fire starts, no that is not the look.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:46 AM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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its called take ur smoke and LEAVE NYC
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