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Old 07-03-2008, 12:03 PM
 
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Gaby's Pizza, in the shopping center at Francis Lewis Blvd. & Hillside Avenue *WAS* a great kept secret. But apparently Rachel Ray got wind of it and gave it some kind of "Best Pizza Slice" award. So now it gets a brisker business. Still worth the trip there though.
Never was a secret in my family, my father grew up on 202nd one block south of Hillside. I try to make an effort to go there once a month, but Hollis is a bit out of the way for pizza. Place is hopping all the time, though.
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:33 PM
 
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Default Chinese restaurant on 228 street and 145 rd.

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No I was thinking of the one on 228 st

The chinese restaurant was owned originally by the Wongs, I went to school with their daughter Lisa. I lived on 226 st. and 145 ave from 1960 - 1986. Then I moved to East Rockaway but I still hung around Rosedale till 1992.
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:41 PM
 
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Hi, I lived 241-53 148 Drive That part of Rosedale was a great place to live. I still like J&S Pizza and think it the best. The best pizza in the area had to offer back in the 60 and 70 was the place thet used to be in Green Acres. But was long gone when I left Rosedale in 1976. I still get back there every couple of years and am glade that the neighborhood is kept so nice.

R U talking about the one outside the Mall facing Alexanders I think it was called "California Pizza" they had small square slices but man they were the greatest tasting ever. I wish I could taste pizza like that again. So this chain of California Pizza isn't the same stuff?
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:42 PM
 
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R U talking about the one outside the Mall facing Alexanders I think it was called "California Pizza" they had small square slices but man they were the greatest tasting ever. I wish I could taste pizza like that again. So this chain of California Pizza isn't the same stuff?
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:48 PM
 
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I lived in 143-74 230th Street from 1970-1997. Then I lived at 253-something 148th Road until 2002.
On 228th street we used to go to Joe's deli all the time and we called Brookville snake road. We would get these long packs of Now-and-Laters for 25. cents and he still had penny candy. Jolly Joes, Charlie Chans, Lemon heads, fireballs, jawbreakers (the big ones), bazooka, sour balls, dum dums, dip sticks, straws, and those wax candies with the sip of liquid inside. Candy necklaces and bracelets, big blo's, jolly ranchers and we could go by a hoola-hoop or jumprope for a dollar at the supermarket up the street. 228th also opened the first carribean store in rosedale. It was tiny and hot all the time but you could get a beef patty or sugar cane to suck on.
Does anyone remember the three planes crashing into the swamp?
I went to PS 181 which is has a twin on the other side of Rosedale. We used to go on the roof to watch the Concord. I remember we also had drills where we ran under the desks and we still have a evacuation siren out by Rockaway which occasionally goes off.
Does anyone remember the smoke from the airport. Now that I work at JFK I get to see the airport firemen train. You used to be able to watch through the fence but they've covered all that up. Also does anyone remember the tennis courts at the start of five towns. It used to have a big green and white cover over it during the winter months.
I remember a chinese delivery place on the conduit and 224 but they stopped delivering real fast because of all the prank calls.
In the mid to late '80's crime picked up but I think overall that was a national problem. Again I could get back into the race issue but I won't if people will stop making off-handed comments about color being the cause of crime. My brother had his first bike stolen in Rosedale by white kids. I got beat up by white kids, so let's leave the race card in the deck, okay, let's just remember Rosedale without it.
Does anyone remember the referee George Papadapolus? And my friend Derrick McCargo had the one inground pool over on 225th street and everyone was always there. They recently put up the skinniest house I have ever seen on that spot. They have widened snake road twice and I think they're putting in a wildlife lookout preserve.
Over in Green Acres Mall (when it was a strip of stores) with Korvettes, Sam Goody, Gimbles, Alexanders, Mays also had a supermarket I think it was Finast with a German bakery next door. Now I think Best Buy is there. And Red Lobster is still standing strong and even the GA movie theatre. All the old people used to go there. Toys r us is still on the corner by Mill Road.
Let's see what else? Oh there are some activists protesting the building of a hourly hotel right across the street from Springfield HS. Recently in the news a hotel off of Rockaway and the conduit was busted for having hookers and porn movies filmed there.
Mini-mansions are going up all over Rosedale now. They're nice and all but nothing as beautiful as the old victorians in Laurelton. Many of the larger homes on that side have been maintained.

Did you know a black girl named Lolly, I think she lived on 229-230 street but on 143 avenue, do you remember the stores on the conduit around 230 street, when I was a kid around 12 I had a press route and I would get the papers there in one of those stores. I can't even remeber what was there now?
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:10 PM
 
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I remember the tunnel under the Belt, first and only time I was mugged. I remember the first black family that moved in too. Some families were good and some bad, but the whites ran for the hills and sold everything. Used to walk to 228st for bread at the bakery, on the "other side" of Brookville Park. Used to get great meatball heroes at Pizza King before Sons of Italy who ran the bazaar once a year. I remember seeing the Concorde for the first time flying right over me by snakeville road that led through the swamp to the back roads to bargain town and JFK. I remember Howard Beach having a fit about the Concorde noise. Memories...Rosedale was a great town, then after our landlord sold the house we left for the opposite side of Brookville Lake. So from PS 181 to PS 195, the sister school is the area that I grew up in from 1971 to 1992. Then the blacks came that way, and the whites took off again to the suburbia which we call Long Island. The racism that I personally experienced was from the blacks at 231 and I dreaded going to Springfield HS, so I didn't. Race was a big issue then as it remains today. People were what they are in all colors and that was that. My friends in school were predominantly black because the school was, didn't care. But, race aside, Rosedale will always be a great town to me, a great memory. Too much good can be said about that great place, including 243rd st with all its stores which we called "Town", like we lived on farms or something. Anyone can write a book today, "Growing up Rosedale", if they lived there. Once me and my friends got our driver's licenses, we were off to the clubs in Long Island, right about the time John Travolta danced at Brooklyn's Odyssey. Great memories of Rosedale and great times, as a kid and teenager, then as an adult. Can't get that back, but if you lived it, hold on to your memories.

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Old 07-04-2008, 08:39 PM
 
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California Pizza was great. No relation to the current national California Pizza chain IIRC.

J&S is still great. And it is still the best kept secret among pizza lovers IMO.

Gaby's Pizza, in the shopping center at Francis Lewis Blvd. & Hillside Avenue *WAS* a great kept secret. But apparently Rachel Ray got wind of it and gave it some kind of "Best Pizza Slice" award. So now it gets a brisker business. Still worth the trip there though.

My mother told me about the days when at Green Acres, mothers could just leave the baby carriages outside the store and go inside shopping .... leaving the babies outside! There would an impromptu "baby carriage parking lot" outside of a store like Gimbels. A more innocent era, no one ever expected anything to happen.

Imagine if a mother did that nowadays? She'd be in handcuffs lickety split!

I still remember the lady with the pretzel stand in the days before the mall was roofed in. Pretzels were 3 for a quarter ($.25).

She had this stainless steel box with a fire in it to keep the pretzels warm. She was always freezing, trying to warm her hands by the fire.

And then there was Len's Sandwich Shop, the site of the original "Eternal Flame." What was that flame in the window all the time???

Did anyone mention St. Clare's yet? One thing I have noticed from the LIRR vantage point; St. Clare's church was built in a Spanish Mission architecture, with the rounded clay roofing tiles. I like the way a large part of Rosedale and moreso Laurelton grew, with the houses designed to match the church's architecture.


I made my first communion at St. Clare's and got married there in 1978. What a beautiful church. Not like St. Pius (sorry to those who went there) although my son was baptised at St. Pius and my daughter made her first communion there. But there was nothing like St. Clare's. I didn't go to school there but I remember hearing about a Sister Agnus who used to hit the kids with a paddle in the sixties. Can anyone tell me if that was really true? I have older cousins who went to catholic school (in brooklyn) and said the nuns were brutal back then. Does anyone remember Father Joe at St. Pius? Young guy who brought young kids back to mass. He was pretty cool but I heard he is not a priest anymore. Any, by the way, California Pizza was delicious! So light, you could eat about 5 slices. You would sit at the counter on the stools that could spin around. I had a friend that used to work there. Yum!! J&S was (and I hear still is) really good. More spicy than California Pizza. I don't ever remember mothers leaving their babies alone outside the stores in the mall. But I do remember the huge Santa Claus statue that was put up every Christmas by Green Acres Bowling Alley (He was juggling balls). Other Christmas decorations were put on top of coverings of the mall walkways before the mall was enclosed. The pretzel lady was the BEST! You're right, they were 3 for 25 cents. What a bargain! There was a store called Lane's and then it changed to Love's, then Gertz, than Korvette's I think. I could be wrong about that. That's going way back. After H.S. I used to work at the airport too, Schenkers Intl. Fdwrs.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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There was a store called Lane's and then it changed to Love's, then Gertz, than Korvette's I think. I could be wrong about that.
No, I think you got it exactly right. I was going through some stuff in my mother's basement and came across an old wooden Loves yardstick, the kind you use for dressmaking. My mother gave me that same historical rundown, but she said at one point it was also called "Lanes Loves," indicating I guess some kind of merger.

Korvettes had a great record department.

Remember "record departments"?

Alexanders also had a great record department.

I don't know how Sam Goody stayed in business when Korvettes and Alexanders always had such good sales. I seem to remember they all had the same kind of price coding. Like, if an album was coded "F", it was $3.99. If it was coded "G" it was $4.99. I still got some albums around with the shrink wrap and the store's label still on them.

Heh, try explaining to a kid with an IPOD that has 30,000 downloaded songs on it about riding your bicycle to Green Acres, and buying a disc with one song on either side, and playing songs one at a time on a record player, and changing records for every song.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:12 AM
 
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R U talking about the one outside the Mall facing Alexanders I think it was called "California Pizza" they had small square slices but man they were the greatest tasting ever. I wish I could taste pizza like that again. So this chain of California Pizza isn't the same stuff?
Yes! That's the place. It was privately owned, I think and there was some kind of drug bust involving the owners and thats when it closed. Not sure of the whole story.
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:43 AM
 
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OMG! Someone mentioned the block parties and I was thinking about when the radio stations would come out and give us freebies and then somehow they would rent a pool and the mini rides. It was amazing to have like three blocks shut down to accomodate us. Relay races, dance contests, games of tag, hopscotch, jumprope, double dutch, hoola hoops, big wheels, sit and spins, water balloon fights and grills going all day and night. And yeah back then we started with the eight track tapes and casettes were becoming big.
And then there used to be the petting zoo in GA Mall. I remember a baby goat ate my pants leg and I freaked out. I also remember for awhile that GA Mall tried to be politically correct by having a white Santa and one end and a black Santa at the other end. Same thing with a white and brown easter bunny. And the police on Horse back were more for the kids to pet then to actually patrol. They still have Santa but I think they have stopped trying so hard. The greatest new thing is Halloween, they have a show, police fingerprint, ID for the kids, coloring books, and the stores let the kids trick or treat. So no matter the weather or time you get off work there's usually plenty of activities going on. The cheer squad performed one year, and they've had magician's and clowns, face painting the works.
I don't remember Lolly but I hung around with various kids and sometimes you never got their names other times you knew them by first and last names. Some were cousins of a friend another kid was the kid from around the corner, the girl from the horseshoe, the boy from over by the school, the sisters who live at the corner or where ever. You didn't care who you played with some days as long as they played by the rules. Punch ball, high water law water, monkey in the middle and pop fly.
Pumpkin, Michael Parker, Chris, Leslie, Cy, Alvin Glymph, Jessica Ayala, Susan Chong, Keith, Karen, David Jackson, Mark, Patricia, Charise, Denise Stapleton. Most of those kids were 70's babies so we were there during the culture change. Someone mentioned being the only white kid in class at 231. I think when you're the minority it can be very hard. I also think you make the best friends then because just like with me I had some tried and true buddies sex nor color seemed to matter (Tracy, Vita, Helen, Rita, Patrick, Mario, Richie, John John, Laura, Vinny, Lisa, Jessica, Wayne) who were white who constantly stuck up for me and got me involved in the community when I was the only one of color and because of their acceptance I think others sort of got used to the idea of judging people more individually. I remember how nice the DeCurtis' were to me. Rich Sr. made me feel like a cheer princess and his wife was also grateful to my mom for the work she put in on maintaining our uniforms from one year to the next. I don't know how they felt behind closed doors but to my face they always treated me like I was no different then any other kid and that even meant reprimanding me and that couldn't have been an easy decision knowing me or my parents might have accused them of racism. But it was that way back then. Anyone's parents could catch you doing wrong and have you raking leaves, or shovelling snow or tell your parents.
The baby parking lot was just for strollers. LOL not the babies. And I remember having glass bottles of milk delivered when I was young. We had that metal box sitting on the porch and I was always getting yelled at for sitting on it (like I knew what it was for). Then the knife guy in the green truck came around to sharpen dull kitchen cutlery. again a relic from old days that was slowly transitioning out when I was growing up. But the paper boys were the big staple of the neighborhood.
And there were three churches in the parish and the other was St. Mary Magdalene. It's a beautiful small one room schoolhouse type church off of Springfield Blvd. a few blocks off of Merrick. They hold Palm Sunday mass out doors. The place is great.
I have to admit the more I read the happier I am that I stuck it out. The memories that have been jogged in my mind are so unbelievably vivid. I remember going into Woolworth while my mom went 'Pattern' shopping and I would hang out in the 'pet area'. And I could wander into the toy area of any store and my mom didn't have to worry about me. I could sit on the little base of the mannequin when I was tired and she'd find me right there when it was time to go. Does anyone remember the stage in one of the shoe areas of one of the department stores for kids? I loved buying shoes when I knew I was going to get to sit on the stage to get fitted and try on.
I'm sure everyone loves their neighborhood but man was Rosedale cool or what?
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