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Old 12-16-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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Let me guess? You're Dominican? God forbid anyone else help Dominican people. That can't possibly be the case. Are you trying to say that Dominicans would be where they are today without other people of color not having to endure discrimination?
thats not the point, the point is that Dominicans have been here since day one. in large numbers.
Dominicans are just not that visible in the political arena. They think is not something they should not get involved with. despite their large numbers Dominican political participation has historically been low. , even today, they are the largest group in NYC and only have one state senator and a few city council members.
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Old 12-17-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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thats not the point, the point is that Dominicans have been here since day one. in large numbers.
Dominicans are just not that visible in the political arena. They think is not something they should not get involved with. despite their large numbers Dominican political participation has historically been low. , even today, they are the largest group in NYC and only have one state senator and a few city council members.
What's the point of being here if you are not going to be politically active? Doesn't matter how large the group is since they are happy sitting on the sidelines, so getting angry about someone else helping to pave the way while others sit on their *** makes no sense.
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Old 12-17-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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What's the point of being here if you are not going to be politically active? Doesn't matter how large the group is since they are happy sitting on the sidelines, so getting angry about someone else helping to pave the way while others sit on their *** makes no sense.

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Old 12-17-2019, 10:18 AM
 
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What's the point of being here if you are not going to be politically active? Doesn't matter how large the group is since they are happy sitting on the sidelines, so getting angry about someone else helping to pave the way while others sit on their *** makes no sense.
Dominicans are very passionate about politics, but about the politics of their own country.
they see themselves as just passing by, making money to then return to the island.
thats why their participation is low, despite having one of the highest percent of US citizenship by naturalization of all the immigrant groups, Meaning they can vote, but they choose not to.

thats what makes Dominicans different from Puerto Ricans and African Americans. They have their own country to worry about.
puertoricans and American blacks have no other choice, Dominicans do. and they have that very clear.
they sit at the margins of Americans racial dilemmas, and political evolution despite being here for a long time and in great numbers.
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Old 12-17-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Dominicans are very passionate about politics, but about the politics of their own country.
they see themselves as just passing by, making money to then return to the island.
thats why their participation is low, despite having one of the highest percent of US citizenship by naturalization of all the immigrant groups, Meaning they can vote, but they choose not to.

thats what makes Dominicans different from Puerto Ricans and African Americans. They have their own country to worry about.
puertoricans and American blacks have no other choice, Dominicans do. and they have that very clear.
they sit at the margins of Americans racial dilemmas, and political evolution despite being here for a long time and in great numbers.
Please. The Dominican Republic is RAMPANT with corruption and poverty. I was watching Drugs, Inc. the other night about how big DR is becoming in the drug trafficking situation both in DR and in NYC. Dominican police officers being paid off to help move drugs. It was pretty wild to watch to be honest. Dominicans are not in such a better situation. They have "favelas" just like other poor countries. If their situation was so much better, they wouldn't immigrate here in the first place. The countries that have solid financial standing... You don't see them coming here in large numbers. The Scandinavian countries are an example.
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Old 12-17-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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Please. The Dominican Republic is RAMPANT with corruption and poverty. I was watching Drugs, Inc. the other night about how big DR is becoming in the drug trafficking situation both in DR and in NYC. Dominican police officers being paid off to help move drugs. It was pretty wild to watch to be honest. Dominicans are not in such a better situation. They have "favelas" just like other poor countries. If their situation was so much better, they wouldn't immigrate here in the first place. The countries that have solid financial standing... You don't see them coming here in large numbers. The Scandinavian countries are an example.
that answer has nothing to do with the subject
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Old 12-17-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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that answer has nothing to do with the subject
It most certainly does because there seems to be a correlation to the population size in certain areas like Miami, NYC, etc. The show noted the growing presence of Dominicans here in NYC and their presence in the drug enterprise. They like to work where they already have a strong presence, such as in parts of the Bronx. They interviewed Dominican drug lords right here in NYC in the Bronx. You may not like hearing it, but that's the deal, so part of the population growth is definitely tied to illegal activities. There are people coming to NYC solely for that purpose from the DR, as was noted on the show.

It reminds me a lot of the old Italian mobs that congregated in the big cities like Chicago, NYC, Boston, etc., where there was a heavy Italian/Italian-American presence.
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Old 12-17-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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It most certainly does because there seems to be a correlation to the population size in certain areas like Miami, NYC, etc. The show noted the growing presence of Dominicans here in NYC and their presence in the drug enterprise. They like to work where they already have a strong presence, such as in parts of the Bronx. They interviewed Dominican drug lords right here in NYC in the Bronx. You may not like hearing it, but that's the deal, so part of the population growth is definitely tied to illegal activities. There are people coming to NYC solely for that purpose from the DR, as was noted on the show.

It reminds me a lot of the old Italian mobs that congregated in the big cities like Chicago, NYC, Boston, etc., where there was a heavy Italian/Italian-American presence.
you seem to be a bit behind on all of this.

first, there is not an increasing Dominican presence in NYC
actually Dominicans are leaving NYC and their numbers are shrinking.


and second, the glory days of Dominican drugs trafficking was in the 90s
today no one can truly compete with the Mexican cartels. and the Caribbean route of the 70-80-90s
is cold compared with the southern border.

all that you are saying was true, just like 20 years ago.
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Old 12-17-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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What areas of NYC would you say has the highest proportion of Dominican "culture"?.....such as the food, residents, bars, etc?

Usually, I find these areas to have the best food and restaurants around, which is very authentic, as well as the most beautiful latina/dominican women too haha!

My top ones would be:

1)-Inwood/Washington Heights (from about 168th Str1eet and Broadway (Presbyterian hospital) all the way up to Dyckman)

2) The Highbridge/Mt. Eden areas of the Bronx (not great areas though) along the Grand Concourse and Jerome Ave

3) Corona/Jackson Heights, Queens ( very good culture here, although is it primarily Dominican or other spanish cultures also? )

There is nothing like getting some authentic food on a hot summer night at 12am.....


Any others that I am missing?
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I have been munching on DR's foods since the 70's.
Dang.....my mouth is watering for some Sancocho........yum.....
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Old 12-17-2019, 07:37 PM
 
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you seem to be a bit behind on all of this.

first, there is not an increasing Dominican presence in NYC
actually Dominicans are leaving NYC and their numbers are shrinking.


and second, the glory days of Dominican drugs trafficking was in the 90s
today no one can truly compete with the Mexican cartels. and the Caribbean route of the 70-80-90s
is cold compared with the southern border.

all that you are saying was true, just like 20 years ago.
Right... Except that documentary is recent, and definitely not from 20 years ago. I’ll leave this here...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...-clout-n851386

One of the biggest drug busts in the area in the state’s history was back in 2015, and many of the people involved were.... Dominicans... Silly me... Still stuck in the 90s... https://riverdalepress.com/stories/H...e-record,57025

Won’t disagree that Dominicans are moving about, but their presence here is as strong as ever. If anything, it is Puerto Ricans’ presence shrinking.
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