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I didn't like the movie, but that behavior was not unique to the 1990s. You all realize that kids have been having sex for hundreds of years, and drug use in various forms has been a part of that. It was actually much worse 100 years ago, with roaming gangs of sickly kids on the streets doing whatever it is they wanted, with crime at the forefront of their fun.
True...I am just around their age and that's when I was growing up and hanging out a lot in that scene in NYC, so that is why I said that it was actually a pretty accurate depiction of life during that time.
FWIW, its the same reason i hated another big name NYC movie, raging bull. boxer starts dumb, gets dumber, learns nothing, stays that way. who wants to pay to see that depressing s**t?
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I think there may be something legitimately wrong with you...
Apparently, since you took away nothing from the film meant that the character must not have learned anything either. I would venture to guess that most people would disagree with your assessment of this classic. I guess the only way that some people see transformation is when the film turns to color and the character finds themselves surrounded by munchkins.
hey, in movies, each to his own i guess. i love new york, i actually am a boxing fan too and admire the technical aspects of those fight scenes greatly, as well as the cast. but bascially, in the film at least, lamotta starts out as a jerk and stays one to the end. i know im in the minority on ths movie, but dramatically, it just ain't my cup of tea. despite all the great talent there all i felt at the end was "who cares about this creep?" even deniro couldnt make me care. and if he couldn't I don't know what actor could. but like i say i havent checked it out since its original release. i might feel differently now.
just sayin'.
BTW anyone want to check out two really great NYC movies, same time period (40s and 50s) also black and white, look at sweet smell of success and all about eve. one's a comedy, the other high drama. both have main characters who aren't terribly likeable either, but manage to see a lot of what they've come to by the end of the movie. and no munchikns needed!
LOL to each his own indeed. I can respect that. You should maybe watch it again someday though. The character does not always need to "transform" or " learn something". Sometimes movies just tell a story...
I remember this movie. Very dark. I don't see why it should be shown at all JHS's though.
Me neither. Not that I don't think they should watch it—it's a good movie—but the only reason to make it required viewing in school seems to be to "scare" or "shock" them into not doing those things.
Me neither. Not that I don't think they should watch it—it's a good movie—but the only reason to make it required viewing in school seems to be to "scare" or "shock" them into not doing those things.
Maybe they should just load it onto small video screens and attach it to cigarette packs.
I remember seeing Kids on Showtime the summer before I left for college. It scared the hell outta me. For someone who lived in a small town and knew little about the city at the time, it left a long-lasting impression of NYC and the young people who lived there. I know it's ficiton, but when I saw it the first time it looked like a documentary and it was scary to see how hedonistic and destrctive they were, without a thought for anyone but themselves. Maybe that IS where today's youths are headed, I hope not though. Anyway, I don't think showing this to young people is a good idea. I know some people think so because it might be a wakeup call and get them to change their behavior, but when most kids see anything screened in school all they care about is entertainment value - you show them this and IMO all it would do is give them ideas about how to misbehave - more so.
Kids is a 1995 drama film written by Harmony Korine and directed by Larry Clark. Why is this not shown all all JHS's across the city? Should be required viewing. A lot of reality in this film.
Funny you should mention that, I forced my friend to watch it the other day in order to **** him off. I love that movie, when I first saw it as a kid the ending really tore me up. "Shhhh....its me, Casper..."
Kids is a 1995 drama film written by Harmony Korine and directed by Larry Clark. Why is this not shown all all JHS's across the city? Should be required viewing. A lot of reality in this film.
The first thing that comes to mind when I see a "movie" put forth as a solution to a problem is Marshall McLuhan and his proposition that the "medium is the message" and I can't help but wonder if the moral, the lesson or the conclusion to watching a "movie" in school is first I expect to be entertained, secondly passivity is the norm for learning and third, it's OK to lead a deviant lifestyle because I might get a movie role.
blowing your nose and showing the person next to you
The filmmaker is a known pedophile the film is primarily a vehicle for showing his perversion of choice being child porn.
Why show this piece of work to kids? Two of the actors in the film died tragic young deaths; the film was not good for the people closest to the film nor will it be good for the viewers. It is glorification of degeneracy or at the very least exposure to smut for the purpose of desensitization. There is nothing artistic about this film. It is like blowing your nose in a tissue and showing the bacteria filled mucus to the person next to you.
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