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Old 06-15-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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Apparently you do care since you replied in the thread.
Not at all. I replied to gentrification of East Williamsburg (which is happening and the demographics of that area have changed). But who comprises the largest nationality there is not something I am debating. Nor do I care about which nationality allegedly has whatever community there. I'm not a part of it.
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Old 06-15-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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That picture is irrelevant to this thread. Shouldn't it have a picture of the flag and a map of nyc?
Not necessarily
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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Just because theres a parade for a certain ethnic group in that neighborhood doesn't mean they're the largest group there. Bensonhurst & Ridgewood still have Italian feasts, even though they aren't Italian dominated areas anymore, and Woodside/Sunnyside still have St Patty parades, even though Irish people have a small presence in either neighborhood.
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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Well actually, the website is accurate about Puertoricans being the predominant tenants in East Williamsburg presently (Over the White Hipsters), in which I'm actually emphasizing about. Most of that other information in the website has nothing to do with this thread and there would not be a Puertorican parade in Graham Avenue AKA Avenue of Puerto Rico two weeks ago if Puertoricans are less than 50% population in East Williamsburg.
I didn't realize there was a law stating that parades celebrating the heritage of a certain nationality must be in a neighborhood where the majority of the residents are of that nationality (or whatever the term is for Puerto Ricans, since Puerto Rico isn't a country)

There's a Puerto Rican parade down 5th Avenue between 44th Street & 79th Street in Manhattan. I guess Puerto Ricans are the majority there too. There's Peruvian Day Parades in Elizabeth & Paterson, and the neighborhoods they pass through aren't 50+% Peruvian. (There are a lot of Peruvians in those neighborhoods within those cities, but they're not the majority of the population).

Yes, there probably are more Puerto Ricans than white hipsters, but that still doesn't mean that they're over 50% of the population.

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There is no other community in East Williamsburg other than a Puertorican one, therefore there is no statistics needed. This is the definition of "Community":

Com·mu·ni·ty
/kəˈmyo͞onitē/

Noun
1. A group of people living together in one place, esp. one practicing common ownership: "a community of nuns".
2. All the people living in a particular area or place: "local communities".

Synonyms
society - commune - public
Alright, so there's a Puerto Rican community in that neighborhood. Nobody was denying that. But it's not as big as you're making it out to be, and since you brought it up, it's not the only community in the neighborhood.

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There is no Italian parade in East Williamsburg, so the Italians from East Williamsburg obviously chose not to be counted as a community. In contrary when Spanish Harlem was a predominant Puertorican neighborhood back in the days, Italians there wanted to be counted as a community so they had their own parade in Spanish Harlem and they still do. I did not commented that all East Williamsburg residents are Puertorican (Even though the Puertoricans are the largest nationality group in East Williamsburg).
See, this my friends, is somebody who doesn't know basic math.

The largest group (not nationality because Puerto Rico isn't a country. You should know that since you're so proud of your heritage) in the neighborhood doesn't mean that it's the majority (which by definition is over 50%). If a neighborhood is 30% Puerto Rican, 20% Italian, 10% Chinese, 5% Korean, 15% Dominican, 10% Carribbean, and 10% American Black, Puerto Ricans are the plurality (largest group), but not the majority.
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:11 PM
 
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Giglio feast
In Williamsburg, Brooklyn (275 North 8th Street). No where near East Williamsburg's Graham Avenue AKA Avenue of Puerto Rico.
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Old 06-15-2013, 10:41 PM
 
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The largest group (not nationality because Puerto Rico isn't a country. You should know that since you're so proud of your heritage) in the neighborhood doesn't mean that it's the majority (which by definition is over 50%). If a neighborhood is 30% Puerto Rican, 20% Italian, 10% Chinese, 5% Korean, 15% Dominican, 10% Carribbean, and 10% American Black, Puerto Ricans are the plurality (largest group), but not the majority.
A lot of the Hispanics these days in East Williamsburg and Bushwick are Dominican, South American, Mexican, etc. Puerto Ricans may still be the biggest single. Hispanic group in these areas, but they are not necessarily the majority of the Hispanics. That's even true of areas like Spanish Harlem, Lower East Side, and the Bronx.
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Old 06-15-2013, 11:04 PM
 
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I didn't realize there was a law stating that parades celebrating the heritage of a certain nationality must be in a neighborhood where the majority of the residents are of that nationality (or whatever the term is for Puerto Ricans, since Puerto Rico isn't a country)

There's a Puerto Rican parade down 5th Avenue between 44th Street & 79th Street in Manhattan. I guess Puerto Ricans are the majority there too. There's Peruvian Day Parades in Elizabeth & Paterson, and the neighborhoods they pass through aren't 50+% Peruvian. (There are a lot of Peruvians in those neighborhoods within those cities, but they're not the majority of the population).

Yes, there probably are more Puerto Ricans than white hipsters, but that still doesn't mean that they're over 50% of the population.



Alright, so there's a Puerto Rican community in that neighborhood. Nobody was denying that. But it's not as big as you're making it out to be, and since you brought it up, it's not the only community in the neighborhood.





See, this my friends, is somebody who doesn't know basic math.

The largest group (not nationality because Puerto Rico isn't a country. You should know that since you're so proud of your heritage) in the neighborhood doesn't mean that it's the majority (which by definition is over 50%). If a neighborhood is 30% Puerto Rican, 20% Italian, 10% Chinese, 5% Korean, 15% Dominican, 10% Carribbean, and 10% American Black, Puerto Ricans are the plurality (largest group), but not the majority.
All flags represent a nation and a nation represents a nationality. It is a preference of choice for the Puertoricans residents of East Williamsburg is to have a parade in their neighborhood, not an obligation by law. A national parade is different than a borough parade, in which could take place anywhere throughout the nation of the USA. Puertoricans in East Williamsburg would have a very hard time having and maintaining business establishments such as a record shop, restaurant, etc. there if they would've been 30% of the population in East Williamsburg. The math calculation in your last comment and in one of your previous comments of the other math calculation you commented about in another thread is not updated and not accurate, obviously. Actually, the U.S. Census do have the most recent percentage statistics so unless you work for them, you will not have access to the actual calculations, so don't judge about who knows what and don't know what because this specific approximate calculation (more than 50% of the East Williamsburg population are Puertorican) is easy to figure out by anybody with common sense.
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Old 06-16-2013, 12:30 AM
 
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A lot of the Hispanics these days in East Williamsburg and Bushwick are Dominican, South American, Mexican, etc. Puerto Ricans may still be the biggest single. Hispanic group in these areas, but they are not necessarily the majority of the Hispanics. That's even true of areas like Spanish Harlem, Lower East Side, and the Bronx.
Exactly. Puerto Ricans may not make up the majority of the total Hispanics in that neighborhood, let alone the total overall population.

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All flags represent a nation and a nation represents a nationality. It is a preference of choice for the Puertoricans residents of East Williamsburg is to have a parade in their neighborhood, not an obligation by law. A national parade is different than a borough parade, in which could take place anywhere throughout the nation of the USA. Puertoricans in East Williamsburg would have a very hard time having and maintaining business establishments such as a record shop, restaurant, etc. there if they would've been 30% of the population in East Williamsburg. The math calculation in your last comment and in one of your previous comments of the other math calculation you commented about in another thread is not updated and not accurate, obviously. Actually, the U.S. Census do have the most recent percentage statistics so unless you work for them, you will not have access to the actual calculations, so don't judge about who knows what and don't know what because this specific approximate calculation (more than 50% of the East Williamsburg population are Puertorican) is easy to figure out by anybody with common sense.
Hopefully by now, most people have figured out that what you're saying is pure nonsense (and this post is no exception), so I'm not going to bother. You want to delude yourself into thinking that East Williamsburg is over 50% Puerto Rican, be my guest.
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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All flags represent a nation and a nation represents a nationality. It is a preference of choice for the Puertoricans residents of East Williamsburg is to have a parade in their neighborhood, not an obligation by law. A national parade is different than a borough parade, in which could take place anywhere throughout the nation of the USA. Puertoricans in East Williamsburg would have a very hard time having and maintaining business establishments such as a record shop, restaurant, etc. there if they would've been 30% of the population in East Williamsburg. The math calculation in your last comment and in one of your previous comments of the other math calculation you commented about in another thread is not updated and not accurate, obviously. Actually, the U.S. Census do have the most recent percentage statistics so unless you work for them, you will not have access to the actual calculations, so don't judge about who knows what and don't know what because this specific approximate calculation (more than 50% of the East Williamsburg population are Puertorican) is easy to figure out by anybody with common sense.
Got any proof that PRs make up more then 50% of the populations there? Real proof, like census info and not just pics of PR flags hanging outside random apartments in the area.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:07 AM
 
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Not necessarily
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