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Old 07-19-2011, 10:57 PM
 
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Read more: Mayor Bloomberg Reveals His Plan For New York To Overtake Silicon Valley


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The city will provide real estate at "virtually no cost" plus up to $100 million in infrastructure upgrades. In exchange, the selected school must build a world-class campus. Bloomberg estimates that a NYC engineering school could result in 400 new companies and more than 22,000 jobs in its first 30 years.
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:00 PM
 
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This is actually an awesome idea! We need to bring more diverse jobs to the city. He is planing ahead and thinking for more revenue for the city in the long run! That is what a good Mayor should do!
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:21 PM
 
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I can say its a start, but theres no way in hell nyc can overtake silicon. Silicon valley is more robust and everything from facebook, google, yahoo to small startup softwar companies will flock to silicon valley because thats the place to be for software and hardware engineering. If not flock to silicon valley, how about tech valley upstate, there is silicon valley in bangalore india, tel aviv israel thats where intel r&d is located and parts of southern china. Nyc has along way to go to dominate . Its about time that bloomberg realizes that nyc needs to diversify its industry portfolio instead of the city relying heavily off of finance, insurance and realestate, healthcare as a secondary. Even with the addition of this tech campus the damage has been done and he needs to find away to generate more middle class residents instead of scaring them off to the bible belt. If I was the mayor I would consult steve jobs to ask him to build a mac campus to nyc, especially since uwsiders who read nyt on there ipads to hipsters in les billybirg with iphone4s, lots of nyers not me thouhj love apple. If I was the mayor I would talk to gm or ford to try to bring automotive industry to nyc in a minor scale. Bloomy should try to bring back manufracturing jobs to nyc, but thats never gonna happen.

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Old 07-19-2011, 11:39 PM
 
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Eh. Most of the major silicon valley companies were started as side projects of kids in school. It doesn't particularly matter where the school is mind you, Facebook was started at Harvard after all, yet still became a silicon valley company. Besides which, part of the reason why companies are still based there is because of the massive amount of land that is available for them to build campuses. You simply cannot build a Googleplex in Manhattan, or anywhere in the outer boroughs, not unless you want to oust a neighborhood and destroy streets. I agree with Bronxguyanese in that this really should be a slightly upstate sort of thing, like it was back in the day when IBM had offices in the Hudson Valley. It's close enough to the city where the employees and the company would benefit from access, but far enough that there's enough open land available for you to make your own corporate campus.

Plus have you seen Washington State taxes? No state income tax
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:42 PM
 
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I can say its a start, but theres no way in hell nyc can overtake silicon. Silicon valley is more robust and everything from facebook, google, yahoo to small startup softwar companies will flock to silicon valley because thats the place to be for software and hardware engineering. If not flock to silicon valley, how about tech valley upstate, there is silicon valley in bangalore india, tel aviv israel thats where intel r&d is located and parts of southern china. Nyc has along way to go to dominate . Its about time that bloomberg realizes that nyc needs to diversify.
Never say never. Why is it that you guys give up so easily?

No one thought the USA would dramatically fall behind the rest of the world in terms of infrastructure.

No one thought China would outpace our GDP a generation ago.

No one thought the U.A.E. would build the tallest building in the world.

That China would have the largest high speed rail network.

Most software engineers want to be entrepreneurs now anyway, not a subordinates. Maybe NYC's unique cultural amenities would attract aspiring minds.


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Besides which, part of the reason why companies are still based there is because of the massive amount of land that is available for them to build campuses. You simply cannot build a Googleplex in Manhattan, or anywhere in the outer boroughs, not unless you want to oust a neighborhood and destroy streets.
This NYC and the sky is the limit. We build up.
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Old 07-19-2011, 11:47 PM
 
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I can say its a start, but theres no way in hell nyc can overtake silicon. Silicon valley is more robust and everything from facebook, google, yahoo to small startup softwar companies will flock to silicon valley because thats the place to be for software and hardware engineering. If not flock to silicon valley, how about tech valley upstate, there is silicon valley in bangalore india, tel aviv israel thats where intel r&d is located and parts of southern china. Nyc has along way to go to dominate . Its about time that bloomberg realizes that nyc needs to diversify.
This is only partially correct statement. While Silicon valley has the biggest IT jobs, NYC also has very robust IT sector mainly for software development and consulting. For example, Google's 2nd largest office is in NYC. NYC never has been known for areas of IT that deals with R&D of hardware or just hardware in general. However we are known for software development (games, education, finance) and tech consulting which are different business from that area (hardware). Although companies like IBM is so huge, they do everything and buy up consulting companies like Lombardi and offer consulting.

Back to topic...while other parts of worlds are having their tech sector boom. You don't see Google or Facebook opening up big software development overseas yet. And once again we're talking about different businesses of IT. NYC will highly unlikely to be leading city of R&D in hardware area but for we already are one of leading cities in US for software development and consulting (in top 5). Also some of the biggest IT areas are in fact as you stated in countries like India but large part of them play in different area of IT such as outsource work.

While USA is loosing the technology innovation edge, its certainly not to India or Tel Aviv yet. Biggest rival to US tech sector in innovation are still Asia and Europe. You don't see massive patent legal battles between companies based in South East Asia, South America, Middle East, former USSR bloc, vs. USA. Also number of patents filed reflects this as well still.

For example, in past few years and currently Apple fought/fighting battles against HTC in Taiwan, Nokia in Finland, currently with Samsung vs. Apple.
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:52 AM
 
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Perhaps we could bring the dress and shirt-making companies back into Manhattan. A huge automotive plant would provide jobs. Maybe NASA could help to center all aerospace advances in Midtown. Dupont could build a refinery or two.

Isn't it nice that Bloomberg has a magic wand just like Harry Potter.

Bloomberg and his successor had just better do their damndest to make sure that the ONLY industry NYC has, the financial center, doesn't move offshore and leave NY with nothing except consumers and people selling real estate to one another.

Silicon Valley indeed... what a doof. After all didn't Bloomberg testify befor Congress asking for more and more foreign worker visas so that the technical fields didn't have to rely on the stupid population of the United States? Where was his grandiose make-work plan THEN?

Most people only fart through a particular orifice...Bloomberg has trained his to TALK.
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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Geez Bronxguayanexe..what a negative statement. I have learned to never say never. And for the record, Bloomberg is reacting to changes already occurring in NYC. Google just purchased a building in NYC for almost $ 1 billion dollars, Facebook is rapidly expanding their presence in NYC and is anticipating tripling their workforce here in the next year or so, and those are just the big ones.

Bloomberg knows technology will be a major economic driver going forward, as finance is waning due to heavy regulations and shrinking profits, so he is doing what a good Mayor should do: Attracting the best and brightest, diversifying the market, and investing in the future of the city. We need more of this, not less. And we don't need to overtake Silicon Valley to be successful, we just need to be a major player, and we will be in short order.

Kefir, your posts are particularly appauling and ignorant. I find your comments to be small minded, short sighted, superficial, and if Bloomberg trained his orifice to talk, then you have trained yours to perform circus acts for public ridicule.
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Bloomberg knows technology will be a major economic driver going forward, as finance is waning due to heavy regulations and shrinking profits, so he is doing what a good Mayor should do: Attracting the best and brightest, diversifying the market, and investing in the future of the city. We need more of this, not less.
I'll grant you the truth in this. But I also include two little musings...


One, not entirely by coincidence, I'm sure--Bloomberg's own media empire would probably profit handsomely from this.

And two, sure, the city can snap its figurative fingers and come up with $100 million or so to get this project started. The totally needless loss of $400 million in the CityTime scandal apparently wasn't anything more than a blip on the radar to the Bloomberg Administration. Besides, when they close a few more fire companies and hospitals, I'm sure the money will be right there to spend.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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Kefir King, please refrain from talking negatively in any capacity about our wonderful little mayor. Respected forum member SoBroGuy tends to get all upset, and I don't like seeing that..
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