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Old 07-23-2011, 02:01 AM
 
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I remember... it's actually in my journal 7/19/10, almost exactly one year ago. I was eating on the 2nd floor of the McDonald's across from the 137th Street 1 train. Saw a girl who gave a guy an attitude after he said some sexually degrading sh*t to her (got the story when I went outside from the 'audience' that was watching the whole thing unfold). He beat her, almost literally to death, with a baseball bat as I sat there halfway into a McChicken and Diet Coke just watching it all. So don't tell me about gettin' smart with these guys. I'd rather play dumb than see where that is going to lead. The truth is that I really was dumb for ever trying to make a go of it in NYC as a prissy white girl without a lot of savings or connections. This is what happens when you are naive (aka dumb) and wind up in the wrong hood, drawn in by the easy commute and cheap(er) rents. I love NYC but laugh when they call these areas 'safe'. I went back to the Midwest and learned to never be open-minded ever again. I'm not racist, I just get it now and will stick with my own kind. Oh yeah, and that part above? You snatched that right before I edited it. You're right, no one should ever tolerate that kind of behavior. I'm just saying that if you stay there, know the consequences. Wish you weren't so damn quick lol. No one deserves that kind of treatment. I think when you live around it for awhile you become desensitized. It's easier just to write it off than to look at it for what it really is. If I was being totally honest I'd tell this girl to run for her life. But that all depends on if you have the means to run in the first place. I didn't. Maybe I just should have become a lowlife welfare case with the rest of them. My upbringing taught me differently and, even in the worst of moments, I refused to give in. Seeing these babymamas with their EBT cards and multiple kids by multiple fathers taught me a great deal. Some of us are human beings and true Americans. And some of us are animals that need to be deported. Eff NYC being a 'sanctuary city'. It's high time that stopped, seeing our national debt. My attitude is that if I can't afford to have kids and have to work 80 hours per week I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for yours when you weren't even born here and came here illegally. They multiply faster than the cockroaches. Actually they are so effin' nasty they give the cockroaches a good name.

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Old 07-23-2011, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I'm not sure what you mean. I'm being candid. I'm sorry if I want to live in a safe, clean area. I work hard and it's not asking much.
Really,why didn't you check out the neighborhood before you moved there ?
Never ceases to amaze me that people move into neighborhoods expecting them to be something different than they obviously are.

Who would ever think of moving to that part of Inwood expecting it to be a safe,clean,quiet neighborhood ?

Everything I have ever read or heard says to stay WEST of Broadway in both Inwood and Washington Heights.Quite simply,you made the wrong decision by not doing any research.So,don't be blaming others for your wrong decision.

There are plenty of safe,clean,quiet areas of NYC to live in.The neighborhood you chose is not one of them and I wouldn't expect it to become one of them anytime soon.

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Old 07-23-2011, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Nicaragua
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wow@the pre-edited EasBoundandDownChick post. do you really think your whole what...uh 6 months you spent in Harlem hardened you so much that now you can just go around telling the next person "get over it already"? I'm pretty sure I read some posts of yours crying about how you got ran out of harlem by your dominican drug dealer neighbors...now you say you dealt with it by "playing along". your whole steeze confuses me, but I suppose it's best to not even to try to understand.

anyways, to address the OP's point...no, you are not asking for too much. unfortunately the neighborhood will not change. I went out with a dominican guy from washington heights for a long time (too long...7 years), lived up there for awhile and spent lots of time there in all seasons...winter, spring, summer, fall. everything you mentioned, I've seen countless times. I grew up in jackson heights, right next door to another dominican neighborhood- corona- but was always kinda blown away by how "anything goes" uptown really is. one of the only places where a girl walking hand in hand with a guy will still get hollered at.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:03 AM
 
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As a guy if you go to the following hoods of Washington Heights, Inwood, University Heights, Morris Heights, High Bridge and Kingsbridge and you see those Dominican girls, your tounge will drop to the floor and will be real difficult to get back up. I remember I was on a bus on MLK boulevard, and this Dominican chick was wearing a two piece, you can see her nipple poping out and every guy was staring, she didnt mind the looks. Then again it was a hot day she was probably off to the pool.
LOL you aint kiddin. Its like having a strip club around you. Its so hard not to stare and drool. The hottest girls up there and I see them with just plain scumbag men?
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Ester,
You cannot logically move into a neighborhood and assume neighborhood will change.
Best to move into a neighborhood you find comfortable. That's the way all of us try to operate.

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listening to loud music, men hanging on the street corner, smoking a joint outside (yep), drinking from paper bags (also in public) and making their women carry up their bags while they lounge and holler at other girls
When someone posts that Inwood is okay only WEST of Broadway, this behavior is exactly what they mean.
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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I know what you mean. I'm a small business owner, and basically because of the economy just breaking even. I also made a promise to myself to offer them a good health insurance plan because it's the decent thing to do, and this has been a struggle, but the people who've worked for me are amazing. So it makes me angry when I see the food stamps at the market and then the woman get into an SUV.
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: The Present
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I went back to the Midwest and learned to never be open-minded ever again. I'm not racist, I just get it now and will stick with my own kind.
ugh, this type of thinking sums up why the midwest is easily the most undesirable part of the country.

Thanks for doing us that favor. You only have yourself to blame for your experience, although I do have to say those "harlemnewbie" posts were quite hilarious.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:09 AM
 
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I moved here two months ago (around East Broadway Dominican Side) because I was told the area was getting better. Well, after a month of listening to loud music, men hanging on the street corner, smoking a joint outside (yep), drinking from paper bags (also in public) and making their women carry up their bags while they lounge and holler at other girls (REALLY not making that up, I've seen it more than once), I can't help but wonder when it will change.

Tonight, in the middle of the heatwave was the last straw. After a long day at work, I'm walking home only to get my butt slapped (I wish I was kidding) by not one, not two, but 3 guys on a bike. After that they added, "We got the white chick!"

I'm actually Peruvian, and just light skinned, but I have to say it's been really hard not to generalize how these people live. I'd feel better if I knew young professionals were truly moving in.

Does anyone know how it will change, or predict?

You are in their neighborhood. You'd be better off further downtown where most of the population is white. Why should the neighborhood change, to suit you?
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: The United States of Amnesia
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Well, after a month of listening to loud music, men hanging on the street corner, smoking a joint outside (yep), drinking from paper bags (also in public) and making their women carry up their bags while they lounge and holler at other girls (REALLY not making that up, I've seen it more than once), I can't help but wonder when it will change.

After a long day at work, I'm walking home only to get my butt slapped (I wish I was kidding) by not one, not two, but 3 guys on a bike. After that they added, "We got the white chick!"
What is drinking for a paper bag???

I lived in Washington Heights since I was 13. It is a heavily Dominican neighborhood; Native Dominicans and NYC born Dominicans. I can say that the West of Washington Heights is a little less ghetto than the East. My mom lives on West side on the upper 170s and when i moved out to Audobon on 186, i was somewhat shocked by the difference. The West of broadway from 175 to 193 (from my experience) is more affluent and has less ghetto people. You will see more young professionals, jews, white families, middle to upper middle class Hispanic families. The East side is the hood (especially at night). Audubon had the thugs, drug dealers, group of kids hanging out in front of buildings, music blasting, etc. If you're a female you will be harrassed 24/7 by young and old dudes. The dominican male culture is extremely macho so the men will get at you even if you turn them down. I also noticed that some women enjoy it (deep down). If you're a male, that is perceived as a threat or odd, you will be heckled. I moved last August to Audubon and i moved out in July 2011 since i did not like the scenery. I am planning on saving up some serious money to buy a co-op or move out to Hoboken.

You're in a bad spot since if you call the cops on them they might try to hurt you or get a female to fight you.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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Um, the Midwest isn't the least desirable part of the country. That title would belong to the South.
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