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Old 07-29-2011, 11:21 PM
 
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WithDisp...that logic doesn't fly. I don't send my kids to public school, therefore, according to you, I should not be paying for them. It has never been the case that you pay for things that you only use...so why are you asserting that to be the case?

Our taxes go towards public transportation, like public schooling although I personally don't use it, because as a whole, our society is better off with an educated population, or in this case, with public transportation instead of everyone using a car.

You should try getting a show on Fox News, you would do well there.
Private schools pay taxes for their buildings and staff, and those general fund taxes go towards all our societies resources. That's the norm.

... but imagine the NYCDOE, was at a budget shortfall and created a new tax- one that all institutions of learning may gain some future knowledge from general public schools, and charged a 20% tuition hike ontop of all private school tuitions which would be used to pay for public schools.
That's basically extorting the 'competition' because you have ties to the gov't.

I'm not complaining about taxes going towards roads, or public transit.

The issue is that there is a monopoly that exists over the transit infrastructure of New York, that NEEDS cars to sustain itself financially, yet diverts all that divisions profits to other sources.
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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In 2009 the MTA, and NYS legislature allowed the passing of a transit mobility tax. Which is payroll tax on EVERY employer, and even non-profits in that 12 county region where money goes directly into the MTA.

It's an equal tax too- if you work in Chelsea, which is served by numerous buses, a few subways, and the LIRR, you pay the same tax rate as someone who lives in Putnam who sees 6 Metronorth trains a day.

Also, every car registration STATEWIDE and car rental STATEWIDE holds additional taxes (this stems from the 2009 law) to help fund the MTA.

Mind you, in 2009 when these fees and taxes were enacted it was to prevent massive service cuts. Almost all of which, were still cut.
I understand but unfortunately we do not get to choose which taxes we will pay based on whether we use services or not. If that was the case my tax dollars would not go to pay for schools, libraries, police and the fire department because I do not use any of those services.

That will never happen.
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Old 07-30-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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No, it was $76.
You sure? I could swear I spent $72 on the unlimited ride every month when I lived here back then.
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Old 07-30-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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I understand but unfortunately we do not get to choose which taxes we will pay based on whether we use services or not. If that was the case my tax dollars would not go to pay for schools, libraries, police and the fire department because I do not use any of those services.

That will never happen.
I can understand not wanting to pay for schools or libraries....but if a fire might happen in your own home or apartment building, do you have your own fire engine to put it out? As for the police, if god forbid that you become a victim of crime, are you a vigilante or something? Are you going to take matters into your own hands? lol
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Old 07-30-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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Private schools pay taxes for their buildings and staff, and those general fund taxes go towards all our societies resources. That's the norm.

... but imagine the NYCDOE, was at a budget shortfall and created a new tax- one that all institutions of learning may gain some future knowledge from general public schools, and charged a 20% tuition hike ontop of all private school tuitions which would be used to pay for public schools.
That's basically extorting the 'competition' because you have ties to the gov't.

I'm not complaining about taxes going towards roads, or public transit.

The issue is that there is a monopoly that exists over the transit infrastructure of New York, that NEEDS cars to sustain itself financially, yet diverts all that divisions profits to other sources.
NYC doesn't need cars to sustain itself. If every single tunnel and bridge into and out of NYC were closed (except for buses), I doubt the city would grind to a halt. Manhattan is the economic hub of the city and most of the people get to their jobs in Manhattan by transit.

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You sure? I could swear I spent $72 on the unlimited ride every month when I lived here back then.
I'll see if I can find a link to the past fare hikes.

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I can understand not wanting to pay for schools or libraries....but if a fire might happen in your own home or apartment building, do you have your own fire engine to put it out? As for the police, if god forbid that you become a victim of crime, are you a vigilante or something? Are you going to take matters into your own hands? lol
To be fair, chances are that the person who's paying more taxes to support police protection probably lives in a safe enough area where they don't actually need that protection. As far as fires go, those can happen anywhere, so you're right about that.
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