And for all the Bloomberg haters... (New York, York: city hall, public school, deed)

[availableusername]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

On the other hand, you support Bloomberg as though you were on his payroll. You accuse everyone else of hating the Mayor, but you're every bit as biased in the other direction.

I honestly still think that he is that weasly prick, Howard Wolfson sometimes...

[Motion]

Originally Posted by Mistertee

Why is it only Blacks and Spanish. How about everyone else? What about Asians who are 1st generation? This is the BS. This country never gives damn about anyone else. Asians come here, live here inpoverty and struggle. They work hard. They could use a break to get a head. F-ing BS, I am disgusted by this crap.

Are Asian males dropping out of school at the same rate as Black-American and Latino men?

Is the crime rate and incarceration rate for Asian males the same as it is for Black and Latino males?

Is the homicide rate for Asian males the same as it is for Black and Latino males?

The point is that Bloomberg's efforts are being targeted towards the males in the city with the most problems.

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

Ok so he is using $30 million of his own money to make a difference and change the lives of the inner city black and hispanic males, and the reponses we received on city-data are:

Positives
-that's pretty cool.

Negatives
-he is trying to win back public appeal
-it's just going to a quota system/waste
-$30M is a pittance compared to how he's used his position to enrich himself
-it's racist because it says black and hispanic males can't be good fathers
-should have been done years ago/too late now

Nuetral I guess
-i'm starting to hate him less

My thoughts:
Alot of you are ridiculous and just complainers. You are damned for giving money and trying to make a difference, and your damned when you don't. If someone randomly gave you $100 bucks, you would simply complain that they ONLY gave you $100, or that they should have been giving you $100 for years now, instead of a damn thank you! I am glad I don't live in your worlds.

If I "donate" $5 to a cause, are you going to laud me as the greatest thing since the personal computer?

30MM is 0.15% of his net worth. Yes, zero point one five. Not 15%. lol

Considering his net worth exploded while he's been Mayor (that's not a coincidence), 30MM is a pittance compared to how much he's gained as a result of his position.

[Motion]

I'am not sure about the situation with Latino communities as far as this but one problem I see with Black-American communities in general is that many aren't as economiclly self-sustaining as they could be. This is why poverty and unemployment is a big problem in these communities. Black-Americans have a spending power of one trillion dollars but very little of those trillions circulate among Black businesses. Why? Because there aren't enough Black owned businesses especially in Black areas. In many Black areas most businesses seem to be owned by non Blacks. So those dollars don't circulate among the people there helping to lead to other Black owned bsuinesses that can provide more services,employment and reducing the need for some to resort to various forms of street hustling to make money.

The non Blacks(Asians and Indians)who seem to own most of these businesses are the ones benefiting from the Black dollar. Black-Americans will have to increase their ownership of businesses in their communities to really see poverty and unemployment reduced. If you look at any Chinatown these communities are self-sustaining. Almost all of the businesses in Chinatown are owned by Chinese. Many things that Chinese-Americans need can be provided to them by Chinese owned businesses in their communities. One reason Asians have a lower poverty rate is because Asians have one of the highest business ownership rates.

Now I don't won't no one to get what I'am saying twisted. I'am not advocating any type of seperatism or suggesting that only Blacks should be allowed to own businesses in Black areas. My point is that until more Blacks own businesses,espeacially in their own communities,those communities will never be as economiclly self-sustaining as they could and should be. This is how Blacks will be able to create more jobs and opportunities for themselves making them less dependent on outside help(from Whites,gov't programs etc).

[Mistertee]

Originally Posted by Motion

Are Asian males dropping out of school at the same rate as Black-American and Latino men?

Is the crime rate and incarceration rate for Asian males the same as it is for Black and Latino males?

Is the homicide rate for Asian males the same as it is for Black and Latino males?

The point is that Bloomberg's efforts are being targeted towards the males in the city with the most problems.

Excuse me? Homicide and dropping out.....you know what if you put yourself in that position then reap the f-ing consequences. Asians could go drop out, gang bang, have teen pregancies but many try to get out of that cycle of stupidity. Everyone in this country has problems, why the f-k should someone make an effort to help them out if they don;t make an effort themselves? Why don;t you give maximum help to those who struggle and commit no crimes? My folks came here in the 70's to the Bronx. We lived in a one bedrooom apt., my sister and I worked damn hard to get the f-k out of poverty. Never took any handouts, gov;t cheese, whatever and we graduated from Ivy league schools (no affirmative action). I almost forgot to mention, my parents came to this country with 7 dollars in their f-king hand. From that, they were able to grow and reap the American dream. Nobody gets a second chance, so wake up.

[Mistertee]

Originally Posted by Motion

I'am not sure about the situation with Latino communities as far as this but one problem I see with Black-American communities in general is that many aren't as economiclly self-sustaining as they could be. This is why poverty and unemployment is a big problem in these communities. Black-Americans have a spending power of one trillion dollars but very little of those trillions circulate among Black businesses. Why? Because there aren't enough Black owned businesses especially in Black areas. In many Black areas most businesses seem to be owned by non Blacks. So those dollars don't circulate among the people there helping to lead to other Black owned bsuinesses that can provide more services,employment and reducing the need for some to resort to various forms of street hustling to make money.

The non Blacks(Asians and Indians)who seem to own most of these businesses are the ones benefiting from the Black dollar. Black-Americans will have to increase their ownership of businesses in their communities to really see poverty and unemployment reduced. If you look at any Chinatown these communities are self-sustaining. Almost all of the businesses in Chinatown are owned by Chinese. Many things that Chinese-Americans need can be provided to them by Chinese owned businesses in their communities. One reason Asians have a lower poverty rate is because Asians have one of the highest business ownership rates.

Now I don't won't no one to get what I'am saying twisted. I'am not advocating any type of seperatism or suggesting that only Blacks should be allowed to own businesses in Black areas. My point is that until more Blacks own businesses,espeacially in their own communities,those communities will never be as economiclly self-sustaining as they could and should be. This is how Blacks will be able to create more jobs and opportunities for themselves making them less dependent on outside help(from Whites,gov't programs etc).

Indians are Asians....last time I checked. I call bull****....business ownership is not a piece of cake and many times it isn;t as profitable as you may think. Many ppl fail within a year and with the high burden of bills, uilities, theft, you are lucky to break even. If that is your main reason for low poverty rate, then you are out of your mind.

[Motion]

Originally Posted by Mistertee

I call bull****....business ownership is not a piece of cake and many times it isn;t as profitable as you may think. Many ppl fail within a year and with the high burden of bills, uilities, theft, you are lucky to break even. If that is your main reason for low poverty rate, then you are out of your mind.

I understand that there are no guarantees with business ownership but it does play a part in increasing wealth building and poverty reduction among a people. I still think there are business behaviors that more Black-Americans need to engage in that will strenghten more of our communities financially. Let's not underestimate the impact that entreprenurship can play on a group's income.

Asian households had the highest average income statewide in 2009, earning nearly $100,000 and surpassing the dominant white population by nearly $20,000, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. Asian-owned companies in New Jersey had the biggest increase in sales of any group between 2002 and 2007, jumping 62 percent.

Asian businessmen stress education, fiscal conservatism - NorthJersey.com

[nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by Mistertee

Why is it only Blacks and Spanish. How about everyone else? What about Asians who are 1st generation? This is the BS. This country never gives damn about anyone else. Asians come here, live here inpoverty and struggle. They work hard. They could use a break to get a head. F-ing BS, I am disgusted by this crap.

yes, I want to know why it is only black and latino...

what about all the other natonalities??????????


well??????????????

[Mistertee]

Originally Posted by Motion

I understand that there are no guarantees with business ownership but it does play a part in increasing wealth building and poverty reduction among a people. I still think there are business behaviors that more Black-Americans need to engage in that will strenghten more of our communities financially. Let's not underestimate the impact that entreprenurship can play on a group's income.

I think it has to do with saving more and spending less on 22" rims, living off credit cards, buying designer clothes w/o sales, buying shoes and sneakers just for the sake of fashion not need, etc. These are factors that need to be looked into. Of course, entrepreneurship plays a big role.....HIP HOP started out as entrepreneurship! Today's its an industry that is dominated by Blacks and Whites. Do you really think Asians cant sing and perform? I suspect there is a glassceiling that prevents talented individuals from getting thru.

[Taxi guy]

Originally Posted by Mistertee

I think it has to do with saving more and spending less on 22" rims, living off credit cards, buying designer clothes w/o sales, buying shoes and sneakers just for the sake of fashion not need, etc. These are factors that need to be looked into. Of course, entrepreneurship plays a big role.....HIP HOP started out as entrepreneurship! Today's its an industry that is dominated by Blacks and Whites. Do you really think Asians cant sing and perform? I suspect there is a glassceiling that prevents talented individuals from getting thru.

Do Asians perform Hip Hop?