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Old 09-06-2011, 05:46 PM
 
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talking gun ownership with non owners or anyone with no real knowledge other than believing their own bull-sh*t is akin to those who have no kids but can tell everyone who does how to raise them.
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:48 PM
 
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exactly my point about those with no knowledge of things but lots of comments that shoot from the hip..

nypd paid 200 bucks per handgun not 100.. there has been no change in the number of guns siezed each year over the last decade. between 5k and 7,000 each year.


Latest NYPD Gun Buyback Program Collects 354 Weapons - NY1.com
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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I believe hand guns in the buy back went for about $100--hardly profitable. Either way, seems like getting any gun off the streets cheaply is worth it. By that logic, you'd have to turn in somewhere in the number of 3-5 illegal handguns in order to buy a better one. I don't know about you, but I like that deal.
see my comment above.
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:57 PM
 
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exactly my point about those with no knowledge of things but lots of comments that shoot from the hip..

nypd paid 200 bucks per handgun not 100.. there has been no change in the number of guns siezed each year over the last decade. between 5k and 7,000 each year.


Latest NYPD Gun Buyback Program Collects 354 Weapons - NY1.com
I made the correction in my previous post prior to this post, but thanks for making my point. It's a step in the right direction imo and it definately contributes to decreasing the number of gun related crimes.

350 guns off the streets of the Bronx in a single weekend, sounds like progress to me.

Like I mentioned before, we have enough gun control laws on the books, the problem is enforcement and punishment. I believe some of the criminals caught had related criminal history. My argument remains, had they not been on the streets, none of this would have happened.
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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talking gun ownership with non owners or anyone with no real knowledge other than believing their own bull-sh*t is akin to those who have no kids but can tell everyone who does how to raise them.
So in otherwords, I need to know what it feels like to be shot in order to know that I don't want to be shot?
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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if you believe that to be true and they didnt go buy something else than i got a bridge to sell you.

the supply of guns is endless. . its like shoveling snow.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:04 PM
 
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In another thread I pointed out that countries such as Canada, which have tougher gun laws than the US has 3 times the violent crime rate.
Your data is exactly backwards. Here's a link on crime comparison (from 2000. I'm looking for more recent stats.) http://dsp-psd.pwgsc.gc.ca/Collectio...85-002-XIE.pdf

"In Canada, there were 542 homicides in 2000 resulting in a national rate of 1.8 homicides per 100,000 population. By comparison, there were 15,517 homicides in the U.S., resulting in a rate (5.5) three times higher than Canada’s."
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:04 PM
 
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So in otherwords, I need to know what it feels like to be shot in order to know that I don't want to be shot?
thats silly, but to have opinions about things you really need a better understanding as to how things work.

most folks comment about every subject under the sun and do so with wives tales, myths , things they heard that are just wrong and then actually believing their own bull-sh*t.

before i judge about which is more lethal a gun or a knive i better understand ballastics and the effects on the body.

before i comment about the gun laws in nyc you should have experience understanding them to see how they play out and what they even are..

the list goes on and on but i guarantee you that maybe no more than a few here even know what nyc gun laws even are but they will comment all day long on them and how they arent tough enough. im not even sure what that statement is supposed to mean.

with a city of 15 million and 34,000 permits i would say there is already enough laws in place to even prevent honest citizens from getting a permit...
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:09 PM
 
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if you believe that to be true and they didnt go buy something else than i got a bridge to sell you.

the supply of guns is endless. . its like shoveling snow.
Hey mathjak, it's easy math...less illegal guns on the street equals less crimes committed with illegal guns.

Gun control laws are stricter now than they ever were, and evidently there are less gun related crimes statistically.
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Old 09-06-2011, 06:10 PM
 
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sorry thats not totaly correct.
gun ownership soared while homicides fell. ownership is at record highs.


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