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imho, those "protestors" are really stupid kids. like they wouldn't even know where to begin to fix the country. the "smarter" kids are actually trying to fix things.
so yes, a good bashing? totally.
I wouldnt say their stupid kids. If you were paying attention much more closely there are people there of all shapes, sizes, different backrounds, former veterans, and people of all ages there protesting. There was a man 34 years old protesting who happened to be a first responder on 9/11 who happens to suffer from sarcoidosis (a deadly lung disease) as a result of cleaning up the trade center site and now has to take an entire container of meds and inhalers, and the city/state has chosen not to assist him (medically) through his difficulties in breathing and making sure he is taken care of for his services.
Obviously you really dont understand their main reason for protesting. When you have the top 2% (corporate masters and banking cartels) who control 98% of everything (money, media, military, entertainment, politicans, judges ect, ect.. I could go on.) and intend on keeping that way making that their only interest THEN WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM. I dont blame the protesters if NYers arent going to step up to the plate at the same time I cannot criticize those that actually do care about their future and that of their kids' future.
I wouldnt say their stupid kids. If you were paying attention much more closely there are people there of all shapes, sizes, different backrounds, former veterans, and people of all ages there protesting. There was a man 34 years old protesting who happened to be a first responder on 9/11 who happens to suffer from sarcoidosis (a deadly lung disease) as a result of cleaning up the trade center site and now has to take an entire container of meds and inhalers, and the city/state has chosen not to assist him (medically) through his difficulties in breathing and making sure he is taken care of for his services.
Obviously you really dont understand their main reason for protesting. When you have the top 2% (corporate masters and banking cartels) who control 98% of everything (money, media, military, entertainment, politicans, judges ect, ect.. I could go on.) and intend on keeping that way making that their only interest THEN WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM. I dont blame the protesters if NYers arent going to step up to the plate at the same time I cannot criticize those that actually do care about their future and that of their kids' future.
Exactly. I wouldn't exactly call this guy a "stupid kid."
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I think people who are quick to paint with the hippie brush have absolutely no CLUE about who is involved in this. Trust me: It's not only college kids.
Funny how no one got out of hand, though--and we went right up to the White House gates at the end. No pepper spray. No tear gas. No mace. No yanking people off a protest line and throwing them on the ground. No broken cameras or video equipment. Nothing. Just people availing themselves of their First Amendment right to peacefully assemble and petition their government for redress.
The police are there in the event of violence, not to cause violence. They are there to protect people and property from being harmed, regardless of which side claims those people and property.
The only reason these few cops in New York behaved in such a barbaric way is because they outnumber the protesters. In short, they were bullies. Guess they feel like big men, now.
I don't get the correlation between what you're saying happens in DC and what happened in NYC. Are you saying that the metro police would just standby and watch if the crowd you were in veered off the planned route and blocked vehicular traffic of some critical traffic artery near the capitol/white house? Can me and my friends go down to DC, sit in the middle of some busy road, and not have the cops intervene? It's one thing to participate in some organized event with a pre-planned route that's shared with the cops. It's another to just spontaneously go and do whatever the heck you feel like.
The function of police is to protect PROPERTY and make sure the STATUS QUO is preserved. This has been the same for every police force back to the Praetorian Guard in Rome. Police have NOTHING to do with Constitutional rights.
Those with wealth and status are protected from attacks by those who have little ot nothing.
That is what they will do in New York and anyplace else that complete corporate power is threatened.
The real genius is how the powerful and wealthy manage to push the COST of supporting police onto those who get no benefit from the armed force. Gotta admit, that takes quite a sleight of hand...or a satchell of cash to a politician or 435.
I think people who are quick to paint with the hippie brush have absolutely no CLUE about who is involved in this. Trust me: It's not only college kids.
OK--it's not only college kids. But let's be honest: it's a tiny number of people who, whatever they may have convinced themselves they're doing, are not changing the existing order. If any of the powers-that-be thought they were about to be toppled from their pedestals, we'd have seen a reflection in the stock market over the last week and a half. (And maybe some of them would've fled the country, in case any torch-bearing mob had ideas about doing more than just removing them from power).
Now, if a spontaneous nationwide movement suddenly sprang up, that would be different. But as it is...nothing more than fodder for YouTube.
I bet a lot of cops WISH the poor didn't get any benefit from the police. There has to be close to 10k cops working in Brooklyn and the Bronx's ghettos alone. They'd all probably jump at the chance to life in your fantasy world while sipping lattes in midtown.
I don't get the correlation between what you're saying happens in DC and what happened in NYC. Are you saying that the metro police would just standby and watch if the crowd you were in veered off the planned route and blocked vehicular traffic of some critical traffic artery near the capitol/white house? Can me and my friends go down to DC, sit in the middle of some busy road, and not have the cops intervene? It's one thing to participate in some organized event with a pre-planned route that's shared with the cops. It's another to just spontaneously go and do whatever the heck you feel like.
I'm saying the MPD did what police are supposed to do: Watch until needed.
Certain among the NYPD are not watching until needed. Some of them are aggressively and proactively engaging protestors. One man in particular, this Anthony Bologna, is making it that much worse. More and more is coming out about him, with him following people who are walking away from him, catching up to them, spraying them, and walking away. The man is cowardly little pissant with an axe to grind.
What's more, New York (and by that I mean the city administration) had to be stupid not to know this was coming. The organizers had announced it a long time ago. It's actually pretty embarrassing that New York can't handle a few hundred protestors. Isn't it supposed to be the toughest, proudest city in the world? Because between the actions of a few cops, the whining by the people who work in the Exchange, and the way some people here on this thread here are reacting so strongly to a few hundred people, it seems to me that New York is pretty easily threatened.
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OK--it's not only college kids. But let's be honest: it's a tiny number of people who, whatever they may have convinced themselves they're doing, are not changing the existing order. If any of the powers-that-be thought they were about to be toppled from their pedestals, we'd have seen a reflection in the stock market over the last week and a half. (And maybe some of them would've fled the country, in case any torch-bearing mob had ideas about doing more than just removing them from power).
Now, if a spontaneous nationwide movement suddenly sprang up, that would be different. But as it is...nothing more than fodder for YouTube.
Actually, look at the list of cities where people are organizing: [URL="http://occupytogether.org/"]Occupy Together[/URL]
Good for them.
Tying up and WASTING tax payers money with this foolishness.
NYPD shoulda busted out the tear gas and cleared up that mob of punks.
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