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And my McLaren stroller cost me $180. They're not exactly affordable.
That's nothing, Bagaboos are $800+. Now THAT is expensive
OP, quit complaining. I don't have kids and want to slap you. I imagine it's challenging enough raising kids (in NYC) and here you are being an inconsiderate jerk complaining about something trivial.
Someone who replied earlier and who works in the MTA pointed out that there is actually ban on strollers, but it's not observed.
By using up more space than one has paid for, one inflicts harm on others.
Here's another way to look at it. Crowding caused by strollers is like body odor or a factory's pollution. It's a negative externality, as economists would call it, because the perpetrator inflicts a cost on others that h/she does not feel. In the same way, the cost of producing steel is borne by the producer, but the cost of the resulting pollution is borne by others. Hence, more steel is produced than is socially optimal.
By using up more space than one has paid for, one inflicts harm on others.
It's a negative externality, as economists would call it, because the perpetrator inflicts a cost on others that h/she does not feel. In the same way, the cost of producing steel is borne by the producer, but the cost of the resulting pollution is borne by others. Hence, more steel is produced than is socially optimal.
Isn't this exactly what you as a subway rider do to us drivers who have to subsidize your abnormally low fares?
You're ALWAYS using up more space than you paid for...
How can one argue against the use of a stroller on a means of public transportation when the argument swings to the contrary when the question of suburbs or driving enter the equation? Seriously, one would think it would be understood that if one is encouraging families to stay in the city and eschew private transportation to work/school/shopping/etc., then they would have to use public transportation, including the subway.
Perhaps the MTA should investigate removing seats, creating more standing zones, or areas with fold out seats for families with strollers and those traveling with a physically challenged person who may be confined to a wheelchair or scooter? One cannot say on one hand that NYC's transit system is fantastic and that families should live in certain neighborhoods, yet then say that particular patrons have no business using the subway because they happen to need a stroller for a small child.
I have seen police officers on the subway who are very cordial to people with strollers, waving or smiling at little ones in their strollers, not ordering the parents to fold them up and stop creating a nuisance, or face fine and arrest. Seriously, some of the posts I have read make it seem that a mother on her way to work to support her child is committing a crime and should be incarcerated because she uses the subway to get to/from work and daycare. Some people may be discourteous, but many are not, and sometimes people just have a bad day, such that they may not be cognizant that they are causing such distress with their stroller use. I know I would much rather have a parent with a stroller nearby than some of the other characters one encounters on the subway.
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That's nothing, Bagaboos are $800+. Now THAT is expensive
OP, quit complaining. I don't have kids and want to slap you. I imagine it's challenging enough raising kids (in NYC) and here you are being an inconsiderate jerk complaining about something trivial.
I see your Bugaboo and raise you a Stokke....those start at $1200
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As someone to takes the train everyday i rarely see strollers on the train. Due to that low frequency on those rare ocassions that there is a stroller taking up space i don't mind.
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