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Old 11-09-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn NY
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De blasio plans to open 90 shelters in new homeless initiative

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ess-initiative

De blasio is in for a second term and he even said that he has a 'mandate' to further his agenda. He wants to open a lot of homeless shelters despite opposition and major concerns over QOL and crime issues that these shelters may bring. I have empathy for our vulnerable population but I think shelters will only encourage more homeless ppl, drug addicts and transients to enter NY to reap benefits.

Shelters are rough places and a lot of homeless people have MAJOR mental health issues. Do you think this shelter plan is good in any sense?
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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What else can be done about the homeless besides open homeless shelters up for them where they may be able to seek better services? Even though shelters are rough places, there should be other services available (mental health counselors, job skill training, addiction resources), that can be put to use.
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Opening new shelters is certainly better than the current plan of housing them in hotels.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn NY
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Opening new shelters is certainly better than the current plan of housing them in hotels.
Well would it actually still be a hotel if they are housing them? I couldn't imagine staying at a hotel and having homeless people in a neighboring room.
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Old 11-09-2017, 01:31 PM
 
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They should make the shelter only for people actually from NYC...
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Old 11-09-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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What else can be done about the homeless besides open homeless shelters up for them where they may be able to seek better services? Even though shelters are rough places, there should be other services available (mental health counselors, job skill training, addiction resources), that can be put to use.
My guess is the city plans to make an industry out of it, modeled after San Francisco. Right now NYC has a system that is broken because it was first designed to actually assist people getting back on their feet again but to do that is, complex. In San Fran they made it into an actual Homeless Industry with high paying jobs and everything (for non-homeless professionals) but it is designed to keep homeless people homeless. I recently visited SF and their homeless issue is way way worse compared to what is seen on the streets of Manhattan.
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Old 11-09-2017, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Make a deal with the governor to house them on the outskirts of NYC
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Old 11-09-2017, 01:57 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Theres something fishy about how the system is housing them in downtown Manhattan and Upper West Side kinds of neighborhoods.

$$$
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Old 11-09-2017, 01:57 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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shove all the homeless inside DeBlasio's rental home in Park Slope
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Between this and the decriminalization of quality of life crimes (drinking in public, sleeping in public, public urination etc), yes. Expect more “hobo” type homeless people on the street. I disliked Bloomberg’s policy of harassing them away, as it does nothing to address the problem of mental health and addiction.

Plus a lot of those hotels are scamming the city by overcharging it to house the homeless. Opening up more re shelters would be cheaper.

But what Id really like to see is a complete overhaul of our mental health system, keeping the least functional people under close medical supervision. But $$$ won’t let that happen unfortunately.


And a reminder, most homeless people are not the hobos you see on the street. Most are ordinary people who hit financial hardships after loss of a job, medical debt, escaping domestic violence or whatever. And if they’re moving all the way to nyc because whatever town they’re in doesn’t even provide them shelter, well then taking care of them is our civic duty and no one should be complaining.
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