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Both Brooklyn and Manhattan can easily stand strong if they were their own cities, not really so much the other boroughs though.
I think Queens could equally be independent if it was its own city. It has 2 airports, shopping malls, its own Chinatown, good public transportation and other public services and a very diverse population.
I would definitely NOT put any borough except Manhattan into any of the alpha categories. Perhaps beta for Queens and Brooklyn.
After all, even Montreal, Rome, and Berlin only rate beta+. I don't see Queens as comparable.
There are plenty of people out there *cough* Michael Bloomberg *cough* that think New York City is just Manhattan & the outer boroughs are a city of 4 boroughs.
If the boroughs were independent cities, they would be pretty damn small cities.
thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Every borough except SI has over 1 million people in it lol. Brooklyn has over 2 million! IF thats a small city to you, where the hell do you live!! Some states dont even 1 million people!
A lot of people in NYC have a distorted view of population, and don't realize how "small" most cities actually are compared to us. For example, Denver, the most populous city within a well-over 500 sq.mi. radius in its region of the Southwest, has only 620k people. By comparison, Staten Island has just under 500k on its own, not much of a difference considering. Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan would still all be in the top 5. Population wise, each Boro would still be considered a major city on its own.
A lot of people in NYC have a distorted view of population, and don't realize how "small" most cities actually are compared to us. For example, Denver, the most populous city within a well-over 500 sq.mi. radius in its region of the Southwest, has only 620k people. By comparison, Staten Island has just under 500k on its own, not much of a difference considering. Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan would still all be in the top 5. Population wise, each Boro would still be considered a major city on its own.
Exactly. We're larger than St. Louis, Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans, Minneapolis, etc. (I was surprised at Miami, but the city proper is actually fairly small).
I think I read somewhere that SI would rank in the top 40, and the other boroughs would rank in the top 10.
NY was all individual areas until the late 1800s.
Look on old censuses and you will be really surprised. My g-g-g-grandfather farmed in New Utrecht... it was a town in which got merged into Brooklyn and later NYC when Brooklyn joined NYC
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