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" I thought that I had seen poverty until I visited Harlem"
I thought I'd seen poverty until I visited Manila. No welfare, no housing help, no food stamps, no nothing. People making houses out of cardboard, living with babies on traffic islands, making houses out of plastic sheeting and sticks on free land on the rail tracks - until the infrequent trains come and them moving thier "houses" and rebuilding them after the train had gone. I could go on. When I came back to the grimy apartment which I lived in at that time in brooklyn, with its flush toilet, hot water shower and roof, it seemed like a goddam palace. I'd seen poverty like that on TV, but it was a visceral shock when it was right there in front of me.
" I thought that I had seen poverty until I visited Harlem"
I thought I'd seen poverty until I visited Manila. No welfare, no housing help, no food stamps, no nothing. People making houses out of cardboard, living with babies on traffic islands, making houses out of plastic sheeting and sticks on free land on the rail tracks - until the infrequent trains come and them moving thier "houses" and rebuilding them after the train had gone. I could go on. When I came back to the grimy apartment which I lived in at that time in brooklyn, with its flush toilet, hot water shower and roof, it seemed like a goddam palace. I'd seen poverty like that on TV, but it was a visceral shock when it was right there in front of me.
America cannot compare to Manila. You've got me there.
OKay all bull **** aside, and pardon my french, and I would like a very straight forward answer, please don't give me statistics. Is there any place within the city, were I can work a crap job full or part time, and go to school on financial aid. I am only in community college, but to make everythng clear, I currently recieve 5,500 dollars per semester (Pell Grant), By the time i plan to move out there, I of course will have as much money as I can saved, but I will need to rely on this money to pay for my rent, and food. I have only been to NYC one time, and never long enough to get familiar with the area, and I only went to manhattan which is far out of my league at the moment. I am not looking for a rich, luxurious life style, I am only looking to survive until I graduate and can get a better job. Please let me know what areas I should search in, and what apartments out there may be affordable on similar budget.
How do you minimum wage workers who live in NYC live there?
I just went there a short while ago, and I went to the bar where there are young women (one of the bartenders in Manhattan was rude and nasty to me) who bartender or waitress there. Many people who come on the C-D forums for NYC talk about how they are coming in to do professional jobs like they graduated college to go into finance or something like that and many posts here are of people looking for a place to live there they can get off a professional entry level job like $30,000 to $60,000 a year maybe.
But are any of you C-D members here live in New York City, and work in Manhattan but live Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, Staten Island or Jersey that have minimum wage jobs? The biggest thing many people are scared of in NYC is the high cost of living, and I cannot imagine how New York's legions of minimum wage workers such as people who work as servers in McDonalds or various restaurant establishments or grocery stores live when the COL index is like 220 in Manhattan. Obviously not everyone you see in Manhattan can be a working professional, a celebrity, or a financial person who makes lots of money.
Can you tell us what type of apartment do you live in (how many square feet), if you work at a fast food or grocery store or something of that nature in Manhattan that pays minimum wage? Do you find that you have barely enough to spend since most of your income goes to rent that you can't even enjoy any disposable income type things like restaurants, movies, plays or anything else? Obviously people who make minimum wage can live in NYC otherwise the city wouldn't function without them but I am interested as to how they live with such a low salary in such a costly place.
Also, would you suggest to a person who wants to move into NYC but needs to find a minimum wage job there like waiting tables or something to not move to NYC because the COL is too high or it is too hard to do it or is it still possible and livable? I have a hard time believing that all the waitresses I see in NYC's restaurants or store employees have such a hard time living there that they don't choose to move somewhere else since I bet many of them too are transplants because they want to be in NYC.
The preceding is socialist twaddle from friends of mao
I know a few people who can barely make ends meet. I'm wondering too, how people with minimum wages can live in NYC??
Because they are living with other people. Some are young people at home with their families. Others are living with multiple people to a room or a basement apartment (multiple people to a basement). They are living in poor parts of town. They are living in housing projects or have other housing subsidies and are on welfare.
OKay all bull **** aside, and pardon my french, and I would like a very straight forward answer, please don't give me statistics. Is there any place within the city, were I can work a crap job full or part time, and go to school on financial aid. I am only in community college, but to make everythng clear, I currently recieve 5,500 dollars per semester (Pell Grant), By the time i plan to move out there, I of course will have as much money as I can saved, but I will need to rely on this money to pay for my rent, and food. I have only been to NYC one time, and never long enough to get familiar with the area, and I only went to manhattan which is far out of my league at the moment. I am not looking for a rich, luxurious life style, I am only looking to survive until I graduate and can get a better job. Please let me know what areas I should search in, and what apartments out there may be affordable on similar budget.
No for the most part it can't be done unless you can get a good paying job and work full time and go to school part-time. Although CUNY has dorms and that could work for you, but I think you have to enroll in the 4 year senior colleges..
Go to a junior college that provides housing in upstate NY that is 1-4 hours from the city. Check the SUNY website for one. There is one in Suffolk county LI also. This way you can go to school full time and take day trips to the city.
Students from the city also go to these schools and you may make a friend/study partner that will let you come home with them for weekends sometimes, especially if you are the stronger one in a subject.
No for the most part it can't be done unless you can get a good paying job and work full time and go to school part-time. Although CUNY has dorms and that could work for you, but I think you have to enroll in the 4 year senior colleges..
Go to a junior college that provides housing in upstate NY that is 1-4 hours from the city. Check the SUNY website for one. There is one in Suffolk county LI also. This way you can go to school full time and take day trips to the city.
Students from the city also go to these schools and you may make a friend/study partner that will let you come home with them for weekends sometimes, especially if you are the stronger one in a subject.
Transplants or transplants with NYC dreams don't do LI or upstate.
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