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He is absolutely correct on this. Especially his assertion about increasing the compensation of those teachers who would be left.
I've said the same thing at the company I work at. If they fired the lazy, incompetent workers they then could raise the wages of those that are actually productive. By providing more incentive, the productive workers would work even harder and overall productivity would increase.
Instead, the productive workers suffer because of the lazy, apathetic, and incompetent.
Same goes with teachers and education.
I bash Bloomberg a lot but he is 100% correct here.
He is absolutely correct on this. Especially his assertion about increasing the compensation of those teachers who would be left.
I've said the same thing at the company I work at. If they fired the lazy, incompetent workers they then could raise the wages of those that are actually productive. By providing more incentive, the productive workers would work even harder and overall productivity would increase.
Instead, the productive workers suffer because of the lazy, apathetic, and incompetent.
Same goes with teachers and education.
I bash Bloomberg a lot but he is 100% correct here.
I agree 100% with what you said. But the teacher's union and the liberals aka democrats won't have none of that. A-hole public advocate and very liberal democrat Bill Diblasio was bashing mayor bloomberg for that. Typical.
As a former public school teacher I would have to say I agree with the fact that we need to get rid of lazy teachers who aren't getting results in the classroom.
However, I also have to say that an increase in class size would only make things worse as far as student progress goes. There is not a teacher alive who would disagree that there is a big difference in working with 20 students vs 35.
Students learn best when they are able to individualized and small group instruction. No way one teacher is going to be able to focus on 35 elementary/middle school aged students.
I went to parochial (Catholic) schools with never less than 50 students per class, sometimes 65. Looking back it was horrific but I still managed to teach myself.
GOD, such a waste of time that was Bible History and the Baltimore Catechism. If there really was a god, heads would roll for torturing children.
Perhaps teachers should be asked if 50% of OTHER City governmental functionaries should be abolished?
As a former public school teacher I would have to say I agree with the fact that we need to get rid of lazy teachers who aren't getting results in the classroom.
However, I also have to say that an increase in class size would only make things worse as far as student progress goes. There is not a teacher alive who would disagree that there is a big difference in working with 20 students vs 35.
Students learn best when they are able to individualized and small group instruction. No way one teacher is going to be able to focus on 35 elementary/middle school aged students.
Just not a reasonable answer.
As a current teacher I couldn't agree more.Getting rid of lazy, ineffective teachers ,sure.Doubling current class sizes ? Disaster.
I'd love to see some of the previous responders on this thread face a class of 70 ( it's already frequently 35) South Bronx middle or high school kids.They wouldn't last 1 hour.
I disagree that it's all about the quality of the teacher. Yeah, that might have something to do with it, but a lot of it has to do with how motivated the students are.
For instance, I've had many of my friends complain about how the teacher moves too fast or doesn't spend enough time covering certain topics because they were too busy focusing on a different topic. However, if they had attended the free tutoring offered after school or had asked the teacher to help them out with a certain topic, or even asked a smart classmate (like myself) to help them out, they would've done better.
I mean, a student who generally scores in the 90s is going to score in the 90s regardless of what teacher they have. The same for a student who scores in the 60s. The quality of the teacher and the class size aren't really the determining factors. I've had averages of 100+ in high school. If you gave me a mediocre teacher and put me into a class with 50 other students, maybe my grade would drop slightly, but not dramatically.
Honestly even though I think it's wrong that teachers are being laid off like crazy, NYC has some of the worst public school teachers in the country, bar none. One of the many reasons why I would never raise kids here.
I wonder when the politicians will ever have the nerve to confront the real problem? The cultures that many of these kids are immersed in are to blame. You can't tell me that half of the teachers in NYC who should be college educated are inferior. It boggles the mind.
Keep in mind. I'm a conservative anti-union type but this blame teachers meme is corrosive, unproductive and incorrect.
I wonder when the politicians will ever have the nerve to confront the real problem? The cultures that many of these kids are immersed in are to blame. You can't tell me that half of the teachers in NYC who should be college educated are inferior. It boggles the mind.
Keep in mind. I'm a conservative anti-union type but this blame teachers meme is corrosive, unproductive and incorrect.
True indeed. Much of the problems with these schools is the teachers but also the students. Most problems stem from the home and brought into the school. WHen you have many single parent homes and abusive fathers or having a mother work from 9-7 pm there is going to be problems with a students development and learning in school. Parents also need to get involved with childrens learning in school, if they dont then thier kids will be a lost cause and slowly and surely end up in the prison industrial system.
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As a current teacher I couldn't agree more.Getting rid of lazy, ineffective teachers ,sure.Doubling current class sizes ? Disaster.
