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Old 12-19-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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Oberon..the wealthy need a place to live as much as the indigent..and we have both in this city. Would you rather have the generationally poor double in size in NYC, or the wealthy? Which is better for NYC?
I responded to another poster. Read his post. He attributes to Bloomberg ridiculous things. Many people get caught in the hype and I happen to be one who despises propaganda of any kind.
I have no claims for "diversity" (what exactly that means?). However the city was traditionally based on the middle classes. That's what I would like to see more of. The change into a city of tycoons and celebrities one one side and poverty on the other, is not to my liking. (I know Bloomberg is not responsible for that, but to claim he encourages "diversity" is preposterous).
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Note-keep holding your breath for the jobs on the way....it's the entire economy, not just NYC in the doldrums. In case you didn't know, we are much better off than most of the country.
Unsubstantiated claims once again. When elected last time, they mentioned his close relations with wall street as an asset to the city... Please, give us a brake. I know what the economic reality is and didn't expect too much.
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And we can all count on another thing if he is in office, more ludicrous statements by people who love to hate...Bloomberg just happens to be the current target.
I understand that. But read the OP and judge yourself. I wouldn't mention Bloomberg in any way, if someone didn't post the OP. I really don't hate him. He surprised me with lots of energy and involvement (and unlike others that are just unemployed politicians, he didn't need this crap) and I also believe he means well. That being said, he also made wrong decisions, some unnecessary gimmicks and he shouldn't have asked for the third term. Really.
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And if you don't like green...maybe paving over the entire city and all greenspaces is the better strategy? Trees and NYC don't mix after all...just concrete. And who needs places to sit....heck no..we want more traffic, exhaust and highways! Yes!

I love green, but hate gimmicks. If you want more green, there are some areas which can be developed into parks and green oasis, but that requires serious work: acquiring the land, demolishing old buildings, investing, planting and maintaining. That creates real jobs. But all that costs money, with results in years and no politician wants others to benefit from his effort. It also takes a ridiculous amount of time to make any move. That is another area where Bloomberg could have left his mark: fight bureaucracy to simplify procedures, so digging a manhole or demolishing a fence wouldn't take longer then it took to the whole subway system to be built.

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Who will be our next mayor? Can a Republican win?
Christine Quinn will be the next NYC mayor.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:56 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I'll say this for Quinn. She has learned from her predecessors leading the City Council and focuses on municipal issues.

Does anyone remember Ruth Messinger from the 1990s? She was blasted by a NY Times columnist for neglecting to repair a pothole in her own neighborhood in the Upper West Side, because she was busy campaigning internationally for the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. It got named "the Messinger pothole."

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Christine Quinn will be the next NYC mayor.
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:57 AM
 
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I don't know if that's the case. I really don't know much about her other than her sexuality. When she starts actively campaigning, let's see where she stands.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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Christine Quinn will be the next NYC mayor.
Oh God no! She would be a horrible mayor. She is way too liberal with very socialist policies. She's definitely NOT getting my vote. What NYC needs is another republican mayor to whip NY into shape.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Oh God no! She would be a horrible mayor. She is way too liberal with very socialist policies. She's definitely NOT getting my vote. What NYC needs is another republican mayor to whip NY into shape.


I agree, I absolutely do not want her either. I think she will be just like Bloomie, and that, i can do without.

I just want someone to ban the tourist helicopters, I feel they are really ruining our quality of life when you are near the shoreline, and they are so annoying to listen to.
This is my biggest peeve with Bloomie, Guiliani banned them, then Bloomie re-instated them. they are a nusiance to out waterfront communities.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Unsubstantiated claims once again. When elected last time, they mentioned his close relations with wall street as an asset to the city... Please, give us a brake. I know what the economic reality is and didn't expect too much.
What do you mean? He is posting actual facts and you're just responding with fluff. It is a fact that New York City had and has lower than average unemployment rates throughout this recession. Also, many areas in the other boroughs outside of Manhattan are developing quite nicely even though we are in a recession. Just look at the Bronx, downtown Brooklyn, LIC in Queens, etc. Like it or not New York City as a whole became a much better city during Bloomie's term.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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Ban tourist helicopters? Lol, living in the wrong city you think?

The Bloomberg hate is unwarrented. Reading responses here you would think he was Stalin or Ahmadinejad.

Come on all, let us hate on the guy whos administartion has pushed hard to enhance our cities urbanity. Damn bike lanes, damn BRT, damn subway extentions, damn tree plantings, damn pedestrian plazas, damn energy efficiency enhancements and incentives, damn higher education center expansion, damn affordable housing, damn dense urban developement, damn gentrification.

Lets raise the crime rate, pollute, kick out those with money. Lets clear out Williamsburg and LIC to build more public housing. Lets pave over parks and plazas, build more roads for the roughly 20% of NYkers that commute. World class, **** that, we want to be on the most dangerous list, not most livable.

I am all for a liberal, pro urban mayor in a liberal metropolis. Bloomberg is pretty damn good mayor in my opinion.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Ban tourist helicopters? Lol, living in the wrong city you think?

The Bloomberg hate is unwarrented. Reading responses here you would think he was Stalin or Ahmadinejad.

Come on all, let us hate on the guy whos administartion has pushed hard to enhance our cities urbanity. Damn bike lanes, damn BRT, damn subway extentions, damn tree plantings, damn pedestrian plazas, damn energy efficiency enhancements and incentives, damn higher education center expansion, damn affordable housing, damn dense urban developement, damn gentrification.

Lets raise the crime rate, pollute, kick out those with money. Lets clear out Williamsburg and LIC to build more public housing. Lets pave over parks and plazas, build more roads for the roughly 20% of NYkers that commute. World class, **** that, we want to be on the most dangerous list, not most livable.

I am all for a liberal, pro urban mayor in a liberal metropolis. Bloomberg is pretty damn good mayor in my opinion.
Try spending a whole day at Govenors Island ( trying to relax) and listen to helicopters circle the Island in the harbor all day long, all day long you can see about 8 helicopters circling around the Island at one time, try that for about an hour and see how you like it.


or even anywhere along the waterfront


****sticks tongue out*****
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Try spending a whole day at Govenors Island ( trying to relax) and listen to helicopters circle the Island in the harbor all day long, all day long you can see about 8 helicopters circling around the Island at one time, try that for about an hour and see how you like it.


or even anywhere along the waterfront


****sticks tongue out*****
Come on man, those helicopters provide a useful service...






















...you get much more NYC skyline pics to post on forums.
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