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Old 12-21-2011, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Never forget, it is HARD to beat a multibillionaire spending his own money. After all, this the United States of Money Talks.


But really, there is no realistic alternative to Christine Quinn. Unless they find her in bed with a dead 12 year old, she is the next mayor.
And that's fine with me...she's a good woman AND I owe her.
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:43 AM
 
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Quinn would make the wost Mayor and is definitely not getting my vote. In a city that is controlled by liberal and leftist democrats, why elect Quinn as Mayor who is a radical leftist to inject more of the same liberal policies NYC is suffering from? She will have the wealthy people of Manhattan and the welfare people of the outer boroughs to rule. Everyone else is moving out. She clearly does not qualify to be Mayor of NYC! I hope she loses!
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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Kefir, while I agree with that statement, I think Obama, who came out of nowhere with no money, no backing, and no name-recognition (probably very negative name recognition based on his Muslim name alone), came to become president with the right message. Bill Thompson could have easily beat Bloomberg but he had no message at all, and no campaign at all, other than "Vote for me at least I am not Bloomberg." Do you think Obama would have won had he simply said "Vote for me at least I am not a Clinton."

The answer is no. Yes money matters, but message matters more, and we have seen that first hand. Americans love an underdog, but they don't love people who have no vision or plan (even if it's a bad one).

As for Quinn, I am still reserving judgement until she is on the campaign trail and starts forming her message and vision for NYC.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:51 AM
 
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In a city that is controlled by liberal and leftist democrats
No, it is a city controlled by MONEY. It would be a breath of fresh air to finally get a City controlled by liberals and leftists (are there any of them ALIVE except me?)
I guess today's leftist is defined as someone who never joined the Nazi Party or the KKK, or worse, someone who is not a landlord.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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Every city is controlled by money so let's not be silly. NYC is controlled by Unions and class warfare, and everyone caters to Wall St, these are bread and butter of liberals and they do it exceedingly well here. If you believe there are no leftists or liberal politicians in NYC, or the city is not controlled by them, then there are no liberals anywhere.
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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If you believe there are no leftists or liberal politicians in NYC, or the city is not controlled by them, then there are no liberals anywhere.

You got that in ONE!
We live in a country ruled by money with one party, THE CAPITALIST PARTY with two wings, one far right and the other neo-NAZI.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Crown Heights
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Quinn would make the wost Mayor and is definitely not getting my vote. In a city that is controlled by liberal and leftist democrats, why elect Quinn as Mayor who is a radical leftist to inject more of the same liberal policies NYC is suffering from? She will have the wealthy people of Manhattan and the welfare people of the outer boroughs to rule. Everyone else is moving out. She clearly does not qualify to be Mayor of NYC! I hope she loses!
Judging by most of your posts, anyone who doesn't want to dismantle social security is a "radical" leftist. Who is a moderate from your viewpoint?

Furthermore, the city already patronizes the wealthy and the very poor. What disqualifies her from not being mayor of NYC, and who is qualified? What do you think will help middle class New Yorkers?
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: New York City
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But is this over-the-top statement due to not taking the required medications for today?

I'm reminded of the first scene of Annie Hall, where Woody Allen says he wants to grow old gracefully, and not end up one of those crazy old geezers wandering around the Village carrying a shopping bag and ranting and raving about socialism.

In 1930s Germany, the Communists viciously attacked the Social Democrats and called them Social Fascists. Soon enough, the real Fascists took over and the Communists were in death camps.



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You got that in ONE!
We live in a country ruled by money with one party, THE CAPITALIST PARTY with two wings, one far right and the other neo-NAZI.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Crown Heights
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Every city is controlled by money so let's not be silly. NYC is controlled by Unions and class warfare, and everyone caters to Wall St, these are bread and butter of liberals and they do it exceedingly well here. If you believe there are no leftists or liberal politicians in NYC, or the city is not controlled by them, then there are no liberals anywhere.
In all fairness the city becomes less liberal with each passing mayor for the last 30 years. CUNY tuitions are higher, rent is higher, small businesses have been having to make way for national chains....There is liberal influence, but its mostly on the defensive. And I really don't understand how catering to Wall Street makes you a liberal. I'm admittedly a liberal, and I don't see catering to wall street as being conducive to my liberal ideals.
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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Having tuition rates increase and saying it's less liberal is like saying milk costs more therefore it's less liberal. Things go up..unless of course you want everything to cost the same it did 20 years ago and never change? That's not reality.

Small businesses making way for national chains again has nothing to do with less liberal...that has to do with change. In case you didn't know, those national chains were mom and pops, then became very successful, expanded and became national chains. Those are American success stories, not things to thumb your nose at. We wish all mom and pops were that successful!

I don't see catering to Wall St as liberal, nor does any sane person believe that. Who is giving that example?
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