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Old 12-21-2011, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Gosh, all of this non-communication.

The brother did not express himself precisely.

What he meant is that when blacks are out and about, specifically when they are in majorily non-black circumstances (which is ALWAYS the situation outside of a black neighborhood), particularly in majorily white circumstances, blacks will ALWAYS as a matter of course, acknowledge other blacks. ALWAYS!

Why?

Simple, because we are always outnumbered and always outgunned. It is our natural state in America.

Also, in many instances, this acknowledgment is part recognition of a fellow of one's social class. Being a black in many social, economic and business settings the only other black(s) about (usually just one or two) will share a common social and economic status. Its like visiting Mars and coming across another Earthling. You are certain to acknowledge one another, if nothing else.

Whites, in contrast, do not act, generally, as a matter of course, in this circumstancial manner. The simple difference is that the circumstance, for whites, is rarely a matter of pure race.

For example, how often does a lone white find themselves in a room of 100 blacks and/or other minorities?

Blacks find themselves in the opposite circumstance too often for comfort, hence the common acknowledgment. Sometimes it is a 'glad to see you brother' nod, other times it is a 'way to go, keep up the good work' nod, sometimes it is a simple, 'keep the faith' nod. You'll also note, unless they know one another, the blacks will stay far apart. Other than the nod, the won't acknowledge each other. (Of course, there is always a knucklehead.)

Got it? So, that is how he knows. We all know.


Who's the knucklehead, obama?
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Astoria, Queens, you know the scene
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I disagree. I think New Yorkers are the most chatty people in the world. I have random conversations with strangers almost every week just riding the transit and being out and about.

I'm Asian and every race pretty much treats me the same. I haven't noticed any difference in races as far as willingness to interact, chat or be cordial and just exchange pleasantries. If anything maybe just the really rich people would be less likely to interact with others outside of their class.





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This is tounge-in -check not a flame. My sample is only wandering around with my 11 yr old daughter and sometimes 19yr old son. We are white my son is Hispanic. This is not statistically significant and anecdotal evidence is inherently unreliable.

We spent a week going through Corona Queens each day and night as well as a few hours walking through Ebbets Field area of Brooklyn and 180th street western areas of Bronx.

Smiling or saying "Hi" to a whilte person was often ignored- maybe 40% of time unless they were tourists and then they would chat. This never happened with the many Blacks Hispanics and to a lesser extent Asians that we talked to. Blacks and Hispanics would often initiate conversations.

Many years ago I grew up in NYC and left in 1969. As a young white person I was told people who look you in the eye may be crazy as would any who talked to you. Maybe at one time this was true.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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This is tounge-in -check not a flame. My sample is only wandering around with my 11 yr old daughter and sometimes 19yr old son. We are white my son is Hispanic. This is not statistically significant and anecdotal evidence is inherently unreliable.

We spent a week going through Corona Queens each day and night as well as a few hours walking through Ebbets Field area of Brooklyn and 180th street western areas of Bronx.

Smiling or saying "Hi" to a whilte person was often ignored- maybe 40% of time unless they were tourists and then they would chat. This never happened with the many Blacks Hispanics and to a lesser extent Asians that we talked to. Blacks and Hispanics would often initiate conversations.

Many years ago I grew up in NYC and left in 1969. As a young white person I was told people who look you in the eye may be crazy as would any who talked to you. Maybe at one time this was true.
This is not exclusive to whites, it's just NYC.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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One thing I will say that I've noticed, is that men of color are more likely to give up a seat to a woman, elderly, etc than any other group. This could be entirely anecdotal, but it is something I have witnessed for years. I think it is likely due to the "old school" mentality, which isn't necessarily a good thing. Just my observation.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I think white people are friendliest to Whites and Black people are friendliest to Blacks.
That's my experience.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: In my view finder.....
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I think white people are friendliest to Whites and Black people are friendliest to Blacks.
That's my experience.
It's a good thing that's YOUR experience and not mine.

Clearly your experience is not the norm. I(black) was on the elevator yesterday with an older white couple. Both acknowledged me and wished me Merry Christmas.

Your remarks, may be your experience but they sure do sound silly.


My experience is, it's all determined by each individual and no one person or situation represents the entire group.

Last edited by Ron.; 12-21-2011 at 10:18 AM..
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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How do you know ?
Well..I've never seen it, not once. but you're right. I don't know for sure
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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It's a good thing that's YOUR experience and not mine.

Clearly your experience is not the norm. I(black) was on the elevator yesterday with an older white couple. Both acknowledged me and wished me Merry Christmas.

Your remarks, may be your experience but they sure do sound silly.


My experience is, it's all determined by each individual and no one person or situation represents the entire group.

My goodness, you as a black person have found friendly white people. Wow. Perhaps you should write a short story for the NEW YORKER.

Dear lord, can NOBODY understand what a generaliztion is? Does the poster need the definition of the word superlative? FRIENDLIEST? Comprende?

Does anyone in the City not believe that blacks are friendLIER (a comparative here...pay attention) with blacks than with whites?
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:35 AM
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I'd say it depends on whether they are working behind a cash register or on the street. In my experience, whites on the street aren't so friendly, but they are a whole lot more friendlier behind the cash register than other groups. I don't know if retail stores otherwise seek out the most miserable people when filling those positions or what it is.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:11 PM
 
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One thing I will say that I've noticed, is that men of color are more likely to give up a seat to a woman, elderly, etc than any other group. This could be entirely anecdotal, but it is something I have witnessed for years. I think it is likely due to the "old school" mentality, which isn't necessarily a good thing. Just my observation.
Entirely anecdotally as well, but when I had a stroller to carry up/down subway stairs, it seemed that people of color were much more likely to help. It could have to do with location - in my neighborhood, which is majority latino, someone would always offer right away. On the upper west side, for example, white men were much more likely to walk right past me.
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