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Old 02-08-2012, 11:19 PM
 
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I'm curious to know if there is much of a difference in how crowded the subway cars are between traveling from Manhattan to an outer borough in the mornings (and doing the reverse commute home in the afternoon/evenings) as compared to coming from an outer borough into Manhattan at those times. Living in San Francisco now, the commute is significantly rougher if you're coming from outside the city in the mornings and then leaving the city in the evenings. Is there a similar difference in NYC? Or is it just mayhem every day in either direction?
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:23 PM
 
Location: London, NYC, DC
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The subway has more dispersed travel patterns than BART, but on the whole it's slightly more crowded going into Manhattan than out during the morning and the reverse in the afternoon, but it depends on the line. The 4 and 5 will be crowded either way, while others tend to be more "standard" (ie peak directional). So it depends where you're going to be honest.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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It's always going to be lighter, of course, starting out from a terminal, (they are mostly all located in the outer boroughs), but there are stops in the boroughs that are just as crazy at peak hours (Roosevelt Avenue in Queens, for example) as any of the Lexington Avenue stops (which are usually pretty packed during rush hrs.) So by the time you are headed into Manhattan from Queens, the train is usually pretty packed, as it is from Manhattan into Queens (a lot of people then have to transfer in Queens to get to Astoria, which empties the train considerably). Slightly less so, I have noticed, from Manhattan into Brooklyn, (because by the time the train gets down there, a lot of hub stops have been hit already and people have gotten out) but there are still some big hubs (Jay street, for example, Dekalb) close to the border between Manhattan and Brooklyn where you can pick up a lot of passengers in either direction.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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The suway ebb and flow is IMMENSE.
My usual trains are the 4,5,6 East Side IRT and the in the morning the trains are JAMMED like cattle cars heading South. In the evening it is a joy to head South with a comfy seat but all the Northbound trains (Harlem and Bronx) are PACKED to overflowing until they partially empty enough to allow breathing at 86th Street.

Same with the West Side IRT and the Queens Trains...outbound at 6 PM is unbelievable. Inbound, half empty.

Manhattan is the daytime job engine and there is no mode of transportation that is unaffected, even out to Long Island or New Jersey and probably Connecticut.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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The Main pulls of the huge transit system in this region are...with at least 50-100k jobs...

Midtown Manhattan
Lower Manhattan
Downtown Jersey City
Downtown Newark
Downtown Brooklyn
Downtown White Plains
Downtown Stamford
Downtown New Brunswick
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Skyway, you said "to an outer borough," but of course you can get a much better answer to your question if you're more specific...

If, for instance, you were commuting to a job in Williamsburg, you'd find the J or M trains much less crowded than a 4 or 5 to downtown Brooklyn. To a degree, it depends where you need to go.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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If I land a teaching job in NYC, there is a very good chance it will be located in an outer borough. I'm going to try like heck to live somewhere in/near Greenwich Village regardless. So, while I will likely be facing a bit of a commute, it might be nice to at least get a seat and not have somebody in my face the whole ride! I ride a Muni bus through Chinatown in SF every day and it is always-my words-apesh*t. Slammed to likely unsafe levels and those elderly Chinese folks are RELENTLESS in their pursuit of a spot on those buses! Simply getting off the bus is usually a nightmare. Thankfully, it's only a mile ride at 15 minutes. As brutal of a mile ride as you can have though.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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If I land a teaching job in NYC, there is a very good chance it will be located in an outer borough. I'm going to try like heck to live somewhere in/near Greenwich Village regardless. So, while I will likely be facing a bit of a commute, it might be nice to at least get a seat and not have somebody in my face the whole ride! I ride a Muni bus through Chinatown in SF every day and it is always-my words-apesh*t. Slammed to likely unsafe levels and those elderly Chinese folks are RELENTLESS in their pursuit of a spot on those buses! Simply getting off the bus is usually a nightmare. Thankfully, it's only a mile ride at 15 minutes. As brutal of a mile ride as you can have though.

Why do you have to live in Greenwich Village?
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If I land a teaching job in NYC, there is a very good chance it will be located in an outer borough. I'm going to try like heck to live somewhere in/near Greenwich Village regardless. So, while I will likely be facing a bit of a commute, it might be nice to at least get a seat and not have somebody in my face the whole ride! I ride a Muni bus through Chinatown in SF every day and it is always-my words-apesh*t. Slammed to likely unsafe levels and those elderly Chinese folks are RELENTLESS in their pursuit of a spot on those buses! Simply getting off the bus is usually a nightmare. Thankfully, it's only a mile ride at 15 minutes. As brutal of a mile ride as you can have though.

You're gonna need a couple of roomates to live in/near Greenwich village if you work as a teacher. It's pretty danm expensive, and last time I checked techears start out at 45k
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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I will live with roommates. Also, I'll be in my 10th year of teaching, so I won't be starting at $45k. I'd be starting at $67,547 a year.
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