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View Poll Results: Who will be more accepted in an upscale NYC neighborhood?
White Southerner 6 15.38%
Minority 11 28.21%
Equally, comes down to how you act 22 56.41%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-06-2012, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brahman21 View Post
for me? because I am not White

for the europeans who had a bad experience here? Because they were immigrants or from another country
This country was built by White Anglo-Saxon Americans.
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:00 PM
Location: The Present
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Originally Posted by FlushingRepresenter View Post
This country was built by White Anglo-Saxon Americans.
Tell that to their slaves.
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:17 PM
Location: New York City
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Elites in New York are all about education, not race or ethnicity. If you went to a top-ranked school you'll fit in.
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by citylove101 View Post
You can't answer this question w/o knowing what type of minority we're speaking about and what other socio-economic indicators go with him/her. Also I guess it depends on what you mean by "accepted". Does that mean the white folks would be neighborly if you moved next door, but nothing more? Does is it mean they'd invite you to stay at their place in the Hamptons for the weekend? Does it mean they'd be perfectly happy if you married their daughter or son?

But I'll give it a try anyway.

Unless you're a celebrity, in the arts, or a pro athlete, black people are generally invisible to this class. And if you ARE a celebrity, there will be many that assume you are too common and up-from-the-slums to be around, whether its true or not. There are always exceptions (thankfully) but the higher you go up the SES scale, the more this seems to be true. But the rich do have manners. They may not like you but they wont call you [racial epithets] to your face either.

Latino people can get by a bit more often because skin color isn't an issue. In the business community there are also plenty of "respectable" Latinos from all around the world -- Spain, Argentina, Mexico -- and often these people will run in the same circles. I mean after all, who is going to snub Carlos Slim (world's richest man)? But your average Puerto Rican or guy form the DR? They're invisible too.

But powerful politicians (black or Latino) will get a pass --and an invite to that Fifth Ave dinner party once in a while. Affluent whites often need their help, so they'll get past whatever qualms they may have.

I have no feel for how Asians might fare in this world. My suspicion is that there would be little to no hostility because Asians aren't genearlly perceived as threatening in any way and also thought of as smart. (Yeah, I know. It's a stereotype). But the flip side of that is that they're also thought of as boring too. Nobody goes to Sunset Park or Flushing or Chinatown for sophisticaated high times. So I dunno. Maybe a rich guy -- or an Asian here can weigh in.

As to the white southerners I thinks it would be much more of a class consideration than anything else. The upper middle class white guy from, say,Atlanta or Rchmond or Birmingham who has the class, taste, talent, and money to run with this crowd would be fine. The trailer trash gal from Tennessee? Not so much.
As someone from the "Upper Class", that's not true. Money and mannerisms are the only thing that counts, I don't care if you're blue or hot pink. I have never in my life have witnessed any upper class white person subbing another equally upper class person due to skin color. Personally, it has never even crossed my mind. I know some wealthy black, latin and asian people and they run in the same circles but their numbers are much smaller because the vast majority of wealthy folks are white.

Besides, New York is too dynamic to place all effort into fitting into this specific old money group. This isn't Dallas or any other US city with where one (old white) group holds all the status. New York has a huge nouveau crowd of celebrities, artists and fashionistas are also "upper class". Downtown Upper Class. Would you rather mingle with 75 year old Edna and Mortimer of Park Avenue or supermodels, actors and rappers Downtown? Most would go with the latter. I certainly would.

But you will fit anywhere if you're rich enough.

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Old 03-07-2012, 06:27 AM
Location: Brooklyn
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Originally Posted by Brahman21 View Post
basically, in a lot of the rich, upper middle class, and elite neighborhoods of NYC and outside of NYC, who will be more accepted by the people there in general?
I think it's more a question of green than any other color, if you know what I mean. If you don't measure up to their standards, they don't have much use for you no matter who you are or what you look like.
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Old 03-07-2012, 01:25 PM
Location: New York City
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I think upscale neighborhoods tend to have educated people. I equate being educated with being more tolerant. I would think that NYC is a great place to not have to worry about fitting in, because you have every kind of person from all kinds of places here. People want nice neighbors. They don't care where they are from or what color their skin is. You will have your ignorant, racist types everywhere, but overall NYC is accepting.
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