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Old 03-29-2012, 07:23 PM
 
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Thieves Hit 'Ghetto' Liquor Store Twice After Bulletproof Glass Removed - DNAinfo.com

I normally don't post articles like this but this businesses got a lot of heat for having a enhanced security in a neighborhood still in progression. I don't think that was fair.
??I dont get why you posted this, it makes perfect sense. Didn't even have to read the entire article to see how stupid removing their "arms of defense" was. All I did was read the title on the hyperlink.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I have mixed feelings about this. I don't like plexi glass liquor stores and if it were my neighborhood I would avoid it.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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Look at her, man. And she lives in a "2 to 3 million dollar brownstone". For the area, she screams upper crust.
A frugal person with good taste could put that outfit together from stuff at thrift stores, or Target.

And she's been there for what, 25 years? Is everybody who bought a cheap house in a slum pregentrification, and then lucked out on appreciation "upper crust"? If so there are a bunch of upper crust Poles from Greenpoint - mostly living in condos in Florida now, I'd wager.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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I just like talkin smack. Especially when stuff happens. ...
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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My family had a restaurant in harlem for 20 years. The plexiglass is needed, trust me. Otherwise you end up like some kid in the dunkin donuts around 2007 when he was shot to death on 145th st after a botch robbery. A few stories of when plexiglass prevented a lot of dangerous **** from happening
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: USA
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they had glass there for a
good reason then i guess...






wacko..
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:37 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Nobody who does not live in Harlem can understand this particular situation.

There is an argument that might be made regarding the creation of a less ghetto environment, and how that might impact residents - especially children. People had that in mind when they went against the plexiglass, and they are thinking the same way when they clean up the litter and garbage the locals strew about. It is a treasured hobby here, in fact. Littering.

This is a typical outcome. Litter cleaned; by the next morning, people have emerged from the building across the way and dumped again. Before doing so, by the way, they actually cut their addresses from things.

On the other hand, there are constant proclamations that "most" people in the area want things to improve. This is not true, and such outcomes will work to demonstrate that point and force a change in tactics, or more aggressive moves. If most people wanted the littering, shootings, robberies, and the grown men riding dirt bikes to stop, for example, it would all stop.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Lets plexiglass everything while we are at it. Including ourselves...
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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Nobody who does not live in Harlem can understand this particular situation.
Harlem's not unique except in the fine details. It's a pretty common thing -- you've got a high-crime neighborhood, those who have homes and businesses there take precautions. Things like plexiglass, locked-up merchandise, bars on the windows, etc. A lot of people -- even those who aren't criminals -- don't like those things. They find them ugly and inconvenient. The problem occurs when some people get things backwards, and start thinking that because these precautions are indicators of a high-crime neighborhood, that they're also CAUSES of it. And that simply isn't so.
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: southern california
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urban renewal overstepping its bounds. standing on the toes of the biz owner. . the government's right to assert public opinion should stop when it comes to free enterprise.
u dont like what he is selling and how he sells it dont shop there. the government only knows how to spend money not make it. leave private enterprise alone. the people that filed the complaint probably own the liquor store down the street.
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