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Unfortunately a group of black men with their JD from Columbia U know they will be seen as no being different from a street thug, unless dressed in business attire. If injured/killed Kelly will pretend to apologize, but claim that the incident was good policing, placing the blame on these Ivy League lawyers.
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Folks like you will pretend as if it is an "isolated" incident.
What incident do you mean ?
Because I know many "black men with their JD from Columbia U" who do not think that way. In fact, most of our friends fit exactly that profile.
Because I know many "black men with their JD from Columbia U" who do not think that way. In fact, most of our friends fit exactly that profile.
Several years ago the Village Voice did a whole story on men with this background who weree assaulted by some cops. Given that upper middle class blacks (especially men) are conditioned to avoid looking like the stereotype these men definitely werent groomed in what ever the ghetto style was at the time.
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As to those black JDs who really do think they way that you claim that they do, ask them how they will react if stopped by a group of cops on a dark street late at night with no other witnesses.Bet you they will attempt to very quickly establish their credentials to avoid an embarassing interlude in a police station, not trusting some half educated cop from Long Island to care about their background.
Ask your son to start helping out in the Black Community then Lucknow, we need it in Toronto. Known to police - thestar.com
Maybe the Canadian Constitution protects people of your colour, but for Black people in Toronto it has not made the slightest change.
Well , all I can say is that's it's deplorable situation that should not be tolerated. I can tell you this though. I have two young black grandsons who live in Toronto. Because their Mother, ny daughter is a hyper social justice lady, these boys will Never allow themselves to be any kind of target for anyone. The constitution is for everyone and it's incumbent upon everyone to NOT ALLOW themselves to be targeted. If every single black person who was stopped or searched without cause then sued the police it would stop immediately.
Several years ago the Village Voice did a whole story on men with this background who weree assaulted by some cops. Given that upper middle class blacks (especially men) are conditioned to avoid looking like the stereotype these men definitely werent groomed in what ever the ghetto style was at the time.
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As to those black JDs who really do think they way that you claim that they do, ask them how they will react if stopped by a group of cops on a dark street late at night with no other witnesses.Bet you they will attempt to very quickly establish their credentials to avoid an embarassing interlude in a police station, not trusting some half educated cop from Long Island to care about their background.
Like us, they are more concerned with getting the anti-socials to clean up their acts.
Or, alternatively, moving as far away from them as we can.
Well , all I can say is that's it's deplorable situation that should not be tolerated. I can tell you this though. I have two young black grandsons who live in Toronto. Because their Mother, ny daughter is a hyper social justice lady, these boys will Never allow themselves to be any kind of target for anyone. The constitution is for everyone and it's incumbent upon everyone to NOT ALLOW themselves to be targeted. If every single black person who was stopped or searched without cause then sued the police it would stop immediately.
There have been numerous complaints filed against TPD by members of the Black Community, but it falls on deaf ears. The main reason for this is that there is no representation that has our interests in mind in Toronto City Council or Canadian government, that is a result of having very few Black's in political positions of power.
I do agree with your sentiment though, educate your black grandsons because it will be necessary. Personally the Toronto PD has been the worst department I have dealt with of any city I have lived, the situation for young black men there is depressing.
There have been numerous complaints filed against TPD by members of the Black Community, but it falls on deaf ears. The main reason for this is that there is no representation that has our interests in mind in Toronto City Council or Canadian government, that is a result of having very few Black's in political positions of power.
I do agree with your sentiment though, educate your black grandsons because it will be necessary. Personally the Toronto PD has been the worst department I have dealt with of any city I have lived, the situation for young black men there is depressing.
That is not enough. If your rights have been abused you need to sue in a civil action. I asked my son in law who is as black a man that I have ever seen if he has EVER experienced and kind of racial problems since he came to Canada from Jamacia as a young teen many years ago. His answer to me was a flat NO I have not.I find that hard to believe actually but this is a very honest man who I'm asking. His family was middle class and they lived in a good part of town so maybe that has something to do with it.
That is not enough. If your rights have been abused you need to sue in a civil action. I asked my son in law who is as black a man that I have ever seen if he has EVER experienced and kind of racial problems since he came to Canada from Jamacia as a young teen many years ago. His answer to me was a flat NO I have not.I find that hard to believe actually but this is a very honest man who I'm asking. His family was middle class and they lived in a good part of town so maybe that has something to do with it.
Not questioning the credibility of your son in law, but I also emigrated from Jamaica to Toronto and everyone I grew up with experienced this. As you said though he lived in a much different neighborhood than myself, as I lived in Lawrence Heights "Jungle" so we grow up with Police swarming our neighborhood on a regular basis.
The numbers do not lie though. The Toronto Star article was very in depth and used actual police data when comparing the numbers and for a city that is 8.5% black, how on earth can you justify Blacks being documented 3 times more often than Whites, including up to 11 times more likely in some neighborhoods.
You couple that with the fact that we only have 1 black member of a 46 person city council and barely any representation Federally and you have a tough situation. Racism in Toronto is not the in your face kind alot of the time, but rather under the radar. Ask your son in law how many Black men he has in executive positions at his company, chances are the answer will be none.
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