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The common rhetoric is that Giuiliani's policies were racist and I am well aware of Stop and Frisk.
However remember when NYC before Giuliani had a much heavier mob presence? He really cracked down on them as well.
Is it safe to say that when it came to crime, he was "tough on all races"?
Of course. Giuliani is Sicilian, yet he didn't make any exceptions. Even when he was a prosecutor, he waged war against the mob and on crime in general. There was nothing racist about Giuliani's policies. They were effective and they worked!
When Giuliani came into office, NYC (not just, this applied to a lot of the country in the middle of the crack cowboy days) was completely out of control. Part of this was the crack explosion, part of this was the left of what we now call PC attitudes left from the 60s and 70s. Giuliani didn't car a whit about the latter, told the police to do what needed to be done, and put in place the people and policies necessary to get the job done. This left a lot of eggshells on the ground, but the omlet got made.
Some people saw this as racist, but reality being what it is, you can't crack down on crime and have the ones negatively effected be racially symmetric.
All I know from someone telling me is that after Giuiliani came the monthly garbage dumping fees fell dramatically for some businesses. Certain manufacturing businesses also no longer had to use specific freight companies owned, operated, or protected by the friends and family program.
He was tough on crime but crime was committed disproportionately by blacks and Latinos. If whites were committing most of the crimes, he’d be tough on them too. He wasn’t racist, he was an equal opportunity crime fighter.
I know what I said isn’t politically correct nowadays (because you can’t say anything bad about blacks, otherwise you are racist) but so be it.
Was the mob getting stopped and frisked on the streets of Staten Island and Brooklyn?
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I was stopped and frisked in Ozone Park during the Giuliani era. Back then it was a heavily Italian enclave. Since Giuliani, Ozone Park has probably seen one of the fastest demographic changes of any neighborhood in the city. Coincidence?
Giuliani unleashed a racist police force. The chant among the police was "It's Guiliani Time now!" which meant they could do what they wanted. Raping a black prisoner in the police station with a broken broom stick, putting 50 bullets into an unarmed black street vendor reaching for his wallet, beatings, murder, you name it, it was done by cops, and Guiliani knew it. Sure he made a name for himself by curbing some mob activities, but guess what, organized crime survived and did fine. Thanks to all the anti-drug BS by politicians like Chris Christie, they have a monopoly on the drug trade. Guiliani was corrupt. His Police Commissioner Kerrick, who was also put forward to be the first head of Homeland Security wound up in prison as a convicted felon, instead of running the third largest department of the federal government.
^ You think police mistreatment of prisoners only occurred to blacks? Plenty of white inmates have been mistreated too but you just didn’t hear about it in the news because it didn’t have racial overtones and thus wasn’t deemed newsworthy by the liberal media.
I know some people that have been in jail and they tell me that it isn’t blacks versus white but more like officers versus inmates.
When Giuliani came into office, NYC (not just, this applied to a lot of the country in the middle of the crack cowboy days) was completely out of control. Part of this was the crack explosion, part of this was the left of what we now call PC attitudes left from the 60s and 70s. Giuliani didn't car a whit about the latter, told the police to do what needed to be done, and put in place the people and policies necessary to get the job done. This left a lot of eggshells on the ground, but the omlet got made.
Some people saw this as racist, but reality being what it is, you can't crack down on crime and have the ones negatively effected be racially symmetric.
No one uses the police to crack down on the opiate epidemic. Considering the current mess NYC is in, including the MTA falling part due to poor oversight Giuliani really didn’t do much. Manhattan’s crime rate is lower in major part due to the underclass getting priced out and the end of easy welfare. The National Republican Party did welfare reform, not Giuliani. The improved economy helped lower crime too.
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