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yes the OP sounds like a true hipster with originality, in other words unlike today's unoriginal mishmash of yesteryear styles with an "ironic" spin as we see in today's fauxhemains. therefore, the term 'hipster' as it's thrown around nowadays is actually a misnomer. this cannot be emphasized enough.the correct term for the fun-obsessed 23-yr olds in williamsburg/greenpoint is 'fauxhemian'.
OP: i agree with the recommendations made to you early on on page1. i think if you chose w'burg you'd find yourself somewhat of a target of age discrimination from the fauxhemians
Windsor Terrace is a good choice for you. You might like Greenpoint more than Williamsburg. It was a Polish working class area in transition with quite a few bars and restaurants. It is getting a bit expensive these days, because of its proximity to Williamsburg. Another part of Brooklyn that I'd look into is Redhook. Back in the day it was very dangerous -- there's a big project there, but I believe the neighborhood has improved a lot.
There are quite a few hip people in Inwood as you have observed, but visually, the area is not very appealing. If that's not important to you, Inwood could be a good fit.
Anon1 has it right. My attitude and outlook are probably best typified by the hipsters of the '40s and '50s. Especially jazz musicians like Dizzy Gillespie, Dexter Gordon, Paul Desmond, Phil woods, etc. These were serious musicians but also fun loving cats with a good sense of humour. And since I was a teenager during the '60s there's probably some residual hippieness there too (far out, man). I suspect that the current crop of of hipsters would regard me as some kind of curiosity. A museum piece or dinosaur.
Why do you call yourself a hispter? By now, I don't even get what the label is meant to describe...
Anyway, if you're looking for a neighborhood with the highest concentration of musicians, and artsy types, then the obvious ones are LES, West village, Williamsburg, Red Hook and Hoboken.
Why do you call yourself a hispter? By now, I don't even get what the label is meant to describe...
Anyway, if you're looking for a neighborhood with the highest concentration of musicians, and artsy types, then the obvious ones are LES, West village, Williamsburg, Red Hook and Hoboken.
Because he is actually the true definition of a hipster... (Read his previous comment)... He's explained this I think twice before on this thread as have others, but sure why not... Recommend the same neighborhoods he has already said hes not interested in... Listening to others is soo overrated these days...
Well, maybe I'm too old to be considered a hipster. At least by its' current meaning whatever it is. But I've been a working musician for forty years playing in bars and nightclubs so I don't quite fit the definition of a middle American. Also, I don't think a neighborhood has to be cutting edge trendy like Williamsburg to have plenty to offer someone like me. Just a few good bars and restaurants. A nice jazz or blues club would be icing on the cake but I'd probably have to live in Manhattan to find that.
Because he is actually the true definition of a hipster... (Read his previous comment)... He's explained this I think twice before on this thread as have others, but sure why not... Recommend the same neighborhoods he has already said hes not interested in... Listening to others is soo overrated these days...
Ok, if you say he's the true definition of Hispter, then it must be so.
If OP is not interested in living where most Musicians and artsy types live/hang out, then I guess any NYC neighborhood would do. no biggie.
The jazz scene that you are looking for has unfortunately greatly dimished in this city with the influx of new new yorkers from across the country. The scene you want may not actually be best in manhattan but rather in Brooklyn or Queens... These areas still exist but the culture isn't there like it used to be...
Fort Greene/Clinton Hill/Windsor Terrace, Murray Hill... Inwood Manhattan does have that scene as well but not as strong as other areas... And an idea would be to check the nice parts of Southeastern queens... you may actually find what you're looking for in these areas though you may be in the minority in these areas as they are predominantly Black... Good areas nonetheless, Queens Village, Laurelton, Cambria Heights, parts of Rosedale and Jamaica... The city has cleaned up alot in recent years...
Ok, if you say he's the true definition of Hispter, then it must be so.
If OP is not interested in living where most Musicians and artsy types live/hang out, then I guess any NYC neighborhood would do. no biggie.
Not my definition... The actual definition. You can look go online and do some research and actually educate yourself before assuming you know things... And there's far more to this city that than indie rock artsy types... The fact that you would say that since hes not interested in these neighborhoods, that any other one would do, shows your limited view of this city... I'm not surprised though...
Not my definition... The actual definition. You can look go online and do some research and actually educate yourself before assuming you know things... And there's far more to this city that than indie rock artsy types... The fact that you would say that since hes not interested in these neighborhoods, that any other one would do, shows your limited view of this city... I'm not surprised though...
The definition of "Hispter" is so broad and amorphous, that is funny when somebody self-declares one, and even more funny and ironic is when sombody who despises them, claims to know the true definition.
And of course the wonderful suggestions of musicians-packed neighborhoods like "Queens Village, Laurelton, Cambria Heights, and Rosedale" give your posts a lot of credibility.
So go ahead, mr. know-it-all, carry on.
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