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Old 06-26-2012, 10:01 AM
 
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Of Brooklyn’s 2.4 million residents, 561,000 - or 23% - are Jewish; up from 18% in 2002. Growing Orthodox families - where having five or more children is common - in Crown Heights, Borough Park and other Jewish enclaves account for much of the increase, the study found.

A surge in secular Jewish families in Brownstone Brooklyn has added to the increase, UJA officials said.

Brooklyn is the capital of Jewish poverty in America,” said Willie Rapfogel, CEO of Metropolitan Council on Jewish Poverty which found that one in four Brooklyn Jews are poor. “There are significant amounts of poor Jewish children.”

Kosher soup kitchen chain Masbia feed hundreds each week in Flatbush and Borough Park.

Nearly one in four Brooklyn residents are Jews, new*study finds * - NY Daily News

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Old 06-26-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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The "poverty" is manufactured. Of course you're going to be "poor" by any government standard when you have 15 children supported by one working father. Never mind that the Orthodox/Hasidic community wouldn't have so many children if more children didn't guarantee them subsidies.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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That area in South Williamsburg legitimately looks like some other dimension. I think the architecture is part of me saying that though.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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good for them. at least they stick up for each other.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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The "poverty" is manufactured. Of course you're going to be "poor" by any government standard when you have 15 children supported by one working father. Never mind that the Orthodox/Hasidic community wouldn't have so many children if more children didn't guarantee them subsidies.
What does "the poverty is manufactured" mean ? Care to elaborate ? It sounds sort of like you don't believe they are really poor,that it's just a statistical fluke or something.

I wouldn't be so sure the poverty rate here is all a result of Hasids to begin with.Most of the old Jewish neighborhoods in NYC have substantial populations of people living "in poverty" and most of them are not Hasids.What they are is old.I live in such a neighborhood and see it every day.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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Well I don't agree with the "manufactured" idea. I supposed if you don't have children to support you would not be poor...so in that case almost all poverty in manufactured. Not sure what you mean specifically with Jews...they have lots of kids they can't afford = poverty. Same applies to everyone else though...how are they manufactured but the welfare mom with 4 kids is not?

A recent estimate had the poverty rate of Jews as 20% in NYC...which goes against the stereotype that they are a moneyed crowd.
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Old 06-26-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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The "poverty" is manufactured. Of course you're going to be "poor" by any government standard when you have 15 children supported by one working father. Never mind that the Orthodox/Hasidic community wouldn't have so many children if more children didn't guarantee them subsidies.
The Orthodox/Hasidic people have so many children because they do not use birth control. Having so many children usually means that the most of these people are poor and stay poor.
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Old 06-26-2012, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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It's an interesting statistic, but 50-60 years ago, wasn't 1 in 2 Brooklynites Jewish or something like that?
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Old 06-26-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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Spawning like guppies to "spread the word" is obscene.


Even Catholics have learned some degree of self-control.

And Brownstone is correct, dropping children like so many maggots should NOT be subsidized by those who can exercise some control.
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