ghettos or hoods? (New York, Yonkers, White Plains: fit in, houses, neighborhood)

[Huckleberry3911948]

instructions --------identify a place as a ghetto.
insult somebody on cd who is from there by calling it such
and then correspond with you on this thead while everybody
gets mad at me for giving an invited response?
like that? pin the tail on the donkey?
ok. you go first.

[stupido]

Originally Posted by KRaZy

Like hustla718 said Mt. Vernon is basicly ghetto, all of it. The area around Sue's Rendevouz, S. Bond st. to Wakefield 241st. subway stop.And next to it Yonkers. And then some parts in White Plains. Can't name you any street names though.

White Plains----South Lexington ave pj's--- Its 8 or 9 10 story building.( the larhest in WP)..and Ferris Ave---if u dont no somone there u in troble....S. Kensico nieghborhood after dark---U gotta hablo spanish finaly then Dekalb-Ave just one tall high rise project--not that bad ...but S. Lex and Ferris Ave = nono

[Veve0308]

Why is it when people mention ghetto they have to make it a black and hispanic thing? There are all kinds of ghetto and in some non black and non hispanic neighborhood it is worst. How about Bay Ridge Brooklyn, or Marine Park Brooklyn or certain areas in Manhattan oh dont forget certain neighborhoods in LI. There is ghetto every where more so than we think but I think anything associated with blacks and hispanics has to be worst. Let me tell you I grew up in the ghetto, while there were drugs and selling going on there was families taking care of their responsibility that couldnt afford to live any where else. I played outsie during the summer, came home at night and still felt safe. Alot of times these families whom kids are on drugs or sellling that is all they know and nothing else. The schools in these neighborhoods doesnt care, there are no teaching going on, there are no caring going on and no money to help these kids, I know I was one of them didnt go in direction of drugs but I could see how that would be easy. I went through how many years of school didnt learn a thing as long as you were quiet teachers passed you, I got rude awakening when I started college lost. If these areas got the same amount of money and support other non blacks or hispanic did trust me you have a different story to tell because alot of these kids are smart. They survive poverty, and do what they have to do to feed their family. Without nice clothes they walk into a place for a job and are automatically judged by the way the look. So they resort to other alternative.

Like I said I've lived all over in the white of white neighborhoods and was freighten at night and have lived in so called hood and had no problem. What I find is that in the hood you coming home at night and these drug dealers look out for you, they see you with your school bags and know your face while this is not the case for all this was my experience. In white neighborhood, someone can be getting robbed and every nose up in the air not even looking at you. I've lived in diversed neighborhoods and felt fine. I've also lived in white neighborhoods and felt fine as I have lived in the so called hood and felt fine.

People please keep an open mind it is so easy to judge from the outside.

[knh39]

Originally Posted by Veve0308

Why is it when people mention ghetto they have to make it a black and hispanic thing?

By definition, a ghetto is an area or neighborhood with a high population of minority individuals. This is true whether they are a minority by race, religion, other beliefs, etc. In the 1950-1960s, many white families began to move out of the inner cities in search of more wealthy, suburban neighborhoods. The individuals that were left behind were of lower socioeconomic status- mostly black American families. After those who could afford to move out did, the neighborhoods fell further into decay. Over time our definition of the ghetto changed. We now largely define the ghetto by its poor, often dangerous conditions. However, we tend to still tie it to the aspect of race as well(which is the terms true definition). That's why its a "Black and Hispanic thing"- white individuals are not a minority when race is the deciding factor. Yes, of course there are many many white neighborhoods that fit the "modern" definition of ghetto, however, those who use the term with its proper meaning attached would not refer to it as such.

[victorfox]

Originally Posted by Veve0308

Why is it when people mention ghetto they have to make it a black and hispanic thing?

Because thats the facts, thats what it is. And I'm latino and I have no problem admitting to it. Name 2 all white projects in NY that is so dangerous no one would dare step a foot in cause theres drug dealing, gang activity, shottings, muggings and rapes?

I'll be waiting for your answer but I won't hold my breathe. lol

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by knh39

By definition, a ghetto is an area or neighborhood with a high population of minority individuals. This is true whether they are a minority by race, religion, other beliefs, etc. In the 1950-1960s, many white families began to move out of the inner cities in search of more wealthy, suburban neighborhoods. The individuals that were left behind were of lower socioeconomic status- mostly black American families. After those who could afford to move out did, the neighborhoods fell further into decay. Over time our definition of the ghetto changed. We now largely define the ghetto by its poor, often dangerous conditions. However, we tend to still tie it to the aspect of race as well(which is the terms true definition). That's why its a "Black and Hispanic thing"- white individuals are not a minority when race is the deciding factor. Yes, of course there are many many white neighborhoods that fit the "modern" definition of ghetto, however, those who use the term with its proper meaning attached would not refer to it as such.

Well,not really. I grew up in an Irish ghetto in Boston.At that time we all had our own ghettos.There were numerous Irish ghettos,Italian ghettos and Jewish ghettos scattered across the city and in NY,Chicago and many other cities as well.Some of them are still there( and here).So it's not just a " Black and Hispanic thing"
Chelsea is definitely a gay ghetto and Williamsburg is definitely a hipster ghetto.

[knh39]

Originally Posted by bluedog2

Well,not really. I grew up in an Irish ghetto in Boston.At that time we all had our own ghettos.There were numerous Irish ghettos,Italian ghettos and Jewish ghettos scattered across the city and in NY,Chicago and many other cities as well.Some of them are still there( and here).So it's not just a " Black and Hispanic thing"
Chelsea is definitely a gay ghetto and Williamsburg is definitely a hipster ghetto.

Yes, I know. If you re-read my post you will understand that I am in agreement with you. A ghetto is an area of concentrated minorities. They are a minority by ethnicity (Black, Hispanic, etc), religion (Jewish), Nationality (Irish, Italian), other beliefs (Gay, Hipster). I was just using the OP's example of "Black and and Hispanic" to show that it technically is all about these differences. If you want to use the term ghetto in its true definition. The original comment by the other poster was basically intended to call everyone closed minded for implying that all ghettos are black or hispanic. However, ghettos ARE areas of minority concentration, which I don't think the other poster really understood. He was viewing the term ghetto as a poor, decrepit area, rather than by its true definition. I was simply trying to say that. I realize that there are hundreds of groups/areas that could be defined as ghetto by their minority association (you listed a bunch).

[stolpioni]

Are there any neighbourhoods which are cheap (projects/ghettos) and mainly white coloured in the city?
If there is, how are they compared to Black/Hispanic neighbourhoods?

[Moth]

Marine Park and Bay Ridge are ghettos?


Ummm......no.

[Marlin331]

Originally Posted by Moth

Marine Park and Bay Ridge are ghettos?


Ummm......no.

Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous. Marine Park and Bay Ridge are middle to upper-middle class neighborhoods!