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I was stopped by the police in Brooklyn and he asked for my DL ,
while giving him my MIchigan DL , he noticed my old NY license and requested it as well.
And then gave me 2 tickets : one for driving w/o handsfree device and second for "more than one license at one time" (In violation of 5095). I tried to google that violation and could not find anything.
Does anyone know how many points it's or how much fee , and is it possible to fight it at all?
You should only carry one driver's license, to your primary residence, with your current address. If you live in NYS, it should be an updated NYS driver's license. If you thought the license was invalid, it should have been destroyed, as it is still a valid government-issued ID, regardless as to whether or not another DMV collected it when you received the new license, unless you maintained your residence in NYS. If you no longer live in MI, your MI license should have been surrendered and a NYS license issued to your current address, regardless as to the expiration date.
You can talk to a lawyer to see if the fine can be mitigated or contested, but it doesn't seem as though you could fight this, unless you are a dual resident of NYS and MI, since both licenses require in-state residency to obtain a driver's license, and if you attempted to update either with an out-of-state current address, the license would be invalidated by the respective DMV.
You want to look at VTL regulations 509-5 and 509-10 regarding the dual licenses, not 5095. Get the proper license updated and issued to your current address.
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So Im guessing your car is registered in MI with MI Plates and this is the reason you gave him your MI license when you live in NY City?
Good way to save on insurance huh?
This guy most likely is a life long New Yorker and has a family member or friend who lives in MI and he uses their address for insurance purposes while the rest of us NY Residents pay the higher rates.
This is why you also see MA, PA, NC, etc... Plates all over NYC lately.
It looks like your gonna have to pay your "stupid tax".
In case you're not familiar with this implicit tax;
this is an avoidable kind of taxation that we all pay from time to time (albeit some pay more than others. : D)
Just make sure you don't over tax yourself in the future.
because i thought that NY DL is not valid anymore after I got a MI DL in 2009.
I had NY DL just laying around in my house and just a month ago put it in my wallet and forget about it.
And when was giving my license he noticed another one as well and requested it.
Then you were not honest when you got your MI driver's license. Standard procedure when getting a license in MI involves them punching out the expiration date and stapling your new paper MI license to your old out of state license. You use that for ID until your new MI license arrives in the mail. MI would then notify NYS that a new license had been issued in your name which would have invalidated your old license with the DMV.
It is very shady, whether you intended it or not, to carry valid licenses from multiple jurisdictions, and to my knowledge is prohibited in all 50 states, so I'm not terribly surprised you were issued a ticket for it.
As others in this thread have stated, most people that do this do it because of sky high insurance where they live. I'm not sure why anyone would choose MI for this though. It's a no-fault state with high auto insurance and plate fees already.
It's like all the college grads who move to Chicago or NYC and keep their old license and their old plates to avoid the sky high rates or having to buy a city/neighborhood sticker. My aunt did this in South Florida for 20+ years. Then they inevitably ***** when the local authorities give them a ticket. People who scam like this raise the rates for everyone else who do play by the rules.
And heaven forbid you have to file some type of insurance claim and your carrier discovers your car is domiciled in NYC while being rated for BFE Michigan. That's fraud, and most insurers don't like it too much.
So Im guessing your car is registered in MI with MI Plates and this is the reason you gave him your MI license when you live in NY City?
Good way to save on insurance huh?
This guy most likely is a life long New Yorker and has a family member or friend who lives in MI and he uses their address for insurance purposes while the rest of us NY Residents pay the higher rates.
This is why you also see MA, PA, NC, etc... Plates all over NYC lately.
lol , i do not have any cars for few years already , since traveling a lot and had a long project in MI , where i was using the rental car. so none of your guesses are correct.
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