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Old 07-27-2012, 11:47 AM
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Whites are immigrants, too, honey...
And NYC has plenty of white immigrants
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:08 PM
 
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Jeez, Louise, people need to get out more. Go away to school or do some road trips and stay at youth hostels. Go to Hawaii where whites are the minority in the whole state. I can't believe in this day and age people can still be so provncial.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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But why would it be a culture shock ?
This would have nothing to do with race and everything to do with social class allegiances.
True, but people tend to associate the two as the same.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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As I stated before being white in NYC does not feel like being in the minority. (I am talking about feelings not about statistics!)

I think the OP has to adjust to NYC (which is obviously a new place to him/her) just like anyone else moving from a different place.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:17 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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True, but people tend to associate the two as the same.
[sigh ...] Yes, I know, it was a kind of rhetorical comment. This is the basis of actually racist thinking.
Of the harmful sort. And it happens on different sides.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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[sigh ...] Yes, I know, it was a kind of rhetorical comment. This is the basis of actually racist thinking.
Of the harmful sort. And it happens on different sides.
Oh I totally agree, I personally get annoyed when people associate the two together without knowing anything about the actual area and the class break down.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:36 PM
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This poor rube didn't realize he'd get beaten up on the city-data boards rather than the street.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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This board is full of threads started by someone who is a foreign born person or an American born person of color asking for advice on where they should live where there are a large number of people of their specific race, color or culture. People respond without question assuming it is OK for them to want to live in a neighborhood that is full of people just like them. But if a white person who grew up in an old fashioned town similar to America in the 1950s, Erie PA, mentions he is somewhat affected by living in a community where a large number of people speak a different language at home and and are more likely themselves to be more comfortable with others who look like them, he is attacked.

I never said New York City is bad because American Born Whites are a minority, just that it is a culture shock for people who grew up in a town like Erie.

If you grew up in a town like I did and moved to NYC, did the nature of the huge immigrant population and large number of languages spoken on the street impact you?
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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This board is full of threads started by someone who is a foreign born person or an American born person of color asking for advice on where they should live where there are a large number of people of their specific race, color or culture. People respond without question assuming it is OK for them to want to live in a neighborhood that is full of people just like them. But if a white person who grew up in an old fashioned town similar to America in the 1950s, Erie PA, mentions he is somewhat affected by living in a community where a large number of people speak a different language at home and and are more likely themselves to be more comfortable with others who look like them, he is attacked.

I never said New York City is bad because American Born Whites are a minority, just that it is a culture shock for people who grew up in a town like Erie.

If you grew up in a town like I did and moved to NYC, did the nature of the huge immigrant population and large number of languages spoken on the street impact you?
Well I am very sorry that you have the unfortunate pleasure of being from backwardstown, USA. I feel even worse that you have to be from erie.

If I were you I'd be more worried about how much sunscreen I would have to apply living here because, unlike Erie, the sun actually shines. I mean, I am not sure how your eyes will take it. You might want to ask your doctor Although, he might not know since he's never seen the sun either. But hey, at least he's an all American white guy!
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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Well I am very sorry that you have the unfortunate pleasure of being from backwardstown, USA. I feel even worse that you have to be from erie.

If I were you I'd be more worried about how much sunscreen I would have to apply living here because, unlike Erie, the sun actually shines. I mean, I am not sure how your eyes will take it. You might want to ask your doctor Although, he might not know since he's never seen the sun either. But hey, at least he's an all American white guy!
This is downright rude, frankly.

Why are "new" New York people so defensive ? I have seen this so often. There is no reason to attack other people, none at all. And the superiority thing is truly unattractive.

In fact, s/he raises an interesting question. I have traveled in the US and observed that few people have any experience with anyone of another race or culture. I am not even necessarily saying "racist," just no experience at all. People literally do not know how to act or what to expect, and the stereotypes from the media often do not match up with what they see. This is the case since childhood for many people. Living in the NYC metro area is a very different experience, and one for which us natives should be thankful - the relative diversity. It is precisely as a person who has traveled around a bit that I can appreciate this background.

Assuming that all across the country have this experience would be a mistake.
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