Questions about policemen

[Airborneguy]

I was being sarcastic.

[akatrk]

Originally Posted by Voebe

When policeman are attacked by a man threatening them, without a gun, why do they always kill him? It's not so much that I think knife-wielding lunatics should be preserved, but does killing them really show the right attitude? Why do they never just kneecap the perp?

There is a police training video titled "How Close is Too Close" that illustrates what's called The Tueller Drill. Sgt. Dennis Tueller of the Salt Lake City Police Department, with the help of Guro Dan Inosanto, illustrated that a person with a knife could cover over 20 feet in 1.5 seconds and stab a police officer before the officer could let off a shot to stop the threat.

I believe the officers during the shooting of a man with a knife in midtown tried to show some restraint while at a distance half of that of 20 feet before using deadly physical force. The officers used pepper spray AFTER ordering the man to drop his weapon. They employed a verbal command which didn't work and went up to a non-lethal choice of force, pepper spray. After the spray, the man lunged at them using a deadly instrument. The officers met that force with the SAME threat of force being used against them. You ever tried dodging a man who has a knife in his hand trying to cut you, let alone kill you?

As far as "Why do they never just kneecap the perp" that's crap. Cops are not marksmen. Hell, they are not trained to be marksmen. Cops are trained to stop the threat. They are trained that to stop a threat of someone using deadly physical force, you shoot center mass. Center mass is where all of a person's vitals are. Hell, center mass sometimes does not work at times (some perps bleed out and die and still put cops in critical condition because they're high on PCP and don't feel a thing).

That crap on why didn't they just shoot him in the leg is what actors get paid to do like T.J. Hooker. Cops don't slide on the hoop of a car and yell "woo hoo" either. They don't solve crime in the allotted sixty minutes minus the commercials either.

[bigjake54]

Sigh. Another ridiculous thread.

Originally Posted by Voebe

1. When policemen are guarding a parade, why don't they know basic information?
2. policemen ... hanging around ... an hour after the parade was over ... still on the clock
3. When policeman are attacked by a man threatening them, without a gun, why do they always kill him?

1. Why don't you use your computer, or a smart phone, to access information about a parade, bus detours, etc., that is available on NYC & MTA websites? Police are brought in on parade coverage from all over the city. It's a one-time assignment, and they are there to line & protect the parade route & surrounding areas, not provide directions or general information.
2. You don't know anything about police deployment or expenses. The NYC Marathon costs more than $2 million in police OT each year! Every time the president visits NYC, it costs more than $350,000.00 in police overtime. Officers are need from hours before an event begins, when streets are closed and people & participants start arriving, until hours after the event ends, when everyone has left and the streets are clear.
3. "Always"? Now, you've gone off the chart! Thousands of attacks on NYPD officers occur each year. Most times, when police respond to crimes involving weapons, they arrest a suspect and recover the weapon. The NYPD killed 8 people in 2010, 6 in 2011. So far this year, 11 NYPD officers have been shot!

Originally Posted by jcoltrane

it was NOT necessary to shoot the guy. ... this is the result of letting *anybody* be cops. Too many fat, midget, and females in uniform. Back in the day when their were *real* cops and the Police Force wasn't a jobs program, and cops were over 6 feet tall with height, weight and strength requirements, a cop would've simply walked up and cracked the guy over the head with his nightstick and dragged him away. In the stead we had a bunch of ballless mini people and women in uniform running thru midtown with guns!

More nonsense. NYPD officers killed 93 people, back in the day, in 1971. Last year, 6.

Originally Posted by jcoltrane

Surprised the cops didn't do their usual, haviing all 20 cops unload their clips turning the poor guy into swiss cheese.

"Usual"? AFAIK, an incident like that has NEVER happened, in the entire history of the NYPD. Even in the Diallo incident, only 2 officers emptied their clips.

[Peerage]

Originally Posted by Phoebe

1. When policemen are guarding a parade, why don't they know basic information? I asked two policemen about the length of a parade, and one said 38th-52nd, one said 34th-67th. Is it so hard to maybe give them little cards with information about the parade and even bus detours?

2. I was passing 50-70 policemen at Sixth & 42nd hanging around chatting among themselves an hour after the parade was over. They are presumably still on the clock, and likely getting paid extra for the weekend. And that's just one intersection. Do we really need to be spending money on this?

3. When policeman are attacked by a man threatening them, without a gun, why do they always kill him? It's not so much that I think knife-wielding lunatics should be preserved, but does killing them really show the right attitude? Why do they never just kneecap the perp?

One word to answer all of your questions. REDICULOUS!