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There's no penalty for littering in NYC's subways. That alone is an issue.
While they certainly do need to devote more time for cleaning, at a certain point those who litter need to be held accountable.
No it is NOT. That kind of nonsense is blaming the victims.. The problem is that the word CLEANING is NOT in the vocabulary of the MTA. Patrons do not yet layers of grime on all the walls and ceilings of the stations. Patrons do not put grime on every fluorescent tube in the system.
One might blame a patron for tossing a soda can on the tracks but when that same can is visible in the same spot for a month or two, blame for the littler is transferred to the morons too lazy to remove it.
When they close a subway line for "repairs" for a weekend, as they do with every line eventually, that track and all it's stations should emerge IMMACULATE on Monday morning.
Blaming patrons for a lack of upkeep is tedious nonsense.
No it is NOT. That kind of nonsense is blaming the victims.. The problem is that the word CLEANING is NOT in the vocabulary of the MTA. Patrons do not yet layers of grime on all the walls and ceilings of the stations. Patrons do not put grime on every fluorescent tube in the system.
One might blame a patron for tossing a soda can on the tracks but when that same can is visible in the same spot for a month or two, blame for the littler is transferred to the morons too lazy to remove it.
When they close a subway line for "repairs" for a weekend, as they do with every line eventually, that track and all it's stations should emerge IMMACULATE on Monday morning.
Blaming patrons for a lack of upkeep is tedious nonsense.
Yes it is the patrons fault, even more so if they know the MTA staff rarely cleans the tracks.
The problem of the litter will stop if patrons stop throwing the litter, and to expect people to get down on the tracks daily to take care of the problem is ridiculous. FINE the patrons, with penalties up to $500 and if not paid arrest them. Then have the MTA clean the stations and do a better job of upkeep.
Of course all this does cost money, but the city and state can budget that.
The stations are getting cleaned due to orders from Cuomo, so it would likely take the state to levy fines on the patrons (the city would have to cooperate with the enforcement).
I don't think "people" clean track. I think they have a vacuum train that does that.
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Originally Posted by bklynkenny
I have to say I've never seen people cleaning the tracks and I've taken the subway at all sorts of weird hours. I have seen the vacuum train a handful of times though.
I don't think "people" clean track. I think they have a vacuum train that does that.
From what I've read, they're putting 500 people on the tracks now to clean because the vacuum train they have currently doesn't work well. I also thought they had people clean during FASTRACK closures.
I don't understand why other countries can take care of their stuff and here in NYC we have animals, who trash trains, litter the tracks and stations. Its disguising. Seriously no concern, no manners. How are people raised to think this is ok?
I'd like a law that for everytime you throw trash on the track or leave your trash on the train, your iPhone gets thrown on the tracks.
So, maybe they should raise the fair $0.50 and use the money to pay for more cleaners?
I'd be fine with that. It's going to go up in 2017 anyway.
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