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Old 08-17-2012, 04:13 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I'm just wondering about this. Since Manhattan seems to have it all, maybe it has these too.

Any ideas?
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Yes there are but they are a closely held secret.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Harlem World
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Yes there are but they are a closely held secret.
In before the City-Data NYC usuals come in bit**ing and moaning about why you want to live or find out any info about renting in Manhattan and there are much better places and NYC sucks overall and you will be so much happier in Aberdeen South Dakota because you will have a better living experience since it is cheap to live "NOT HERE"
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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The secret is you have to kill a rent-controlled tenant and then assume their identity. All real New Yorkers have done this; only clueless transplants pay market rents.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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There are alot of rent stabilized apartments on 10th and 11th Avenues (38-53rd Streets) with tenants who have been living there for YEARS...if you are able to be lucky enough / connected enough...it's possible you could find an apartment where the previous tenant has died / moved out due to health / nursing home etc...Again it takes quite a bit of luck, connections, timing etc...Once the tenant has moved out, the landlord will "renovate" and bump the previous rent up 18%...There are people living in desirable areas of Manhattan paying < $800 because of the rent stabilized status...
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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There are alot of rent stabilized apartments on 10th and 11th Avenues (38-53rd Streets) with tenants who have been living there for YEARS...if you are able to be lucky enough / connected enough...it's possible you could find an apartment where the previous tenant has died / moved out due to health / nursing home etc...Again it takes quite a bit of luck, connections, timing etc...Once the tenant has moved out, the landlord will "renovate" and bump the previous rent up 18%...There are people living in desirable areas of Manhattan paying < $800 because of the rent stabilized status...

True, when people die or move, the landlords do (or pretend to do) the infamous "gut rehab." They usually rent to transplants, and to transplants who, they feel confident, will not have the wherewithal to question the rent. After a time, the actual rent paid becomes the legal rent. This is the most common way that apartments are deregulated, in my opinion. I have seen it many times.

There are probably only significant numbers of regulated units in ghetto areas. Some of these areas are changing, but the landlords anticipate this and guide themselves accordingly.
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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After a time, the actual rent paid becomes the legal rent..
Why? Isn't this rewarding deceit? And after how long of the wrongful rent being charged does it suddenly become legal?
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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I know someone who is paying $200/month for a studio (nice sized, too) on Park Avenue in the 60s. Market rate for that apartment would probably be over 2K/mo
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Why? Isn't this rewarding deceit? And after how long of the wrongful rent being charged does it suddenly become legal?
Is it three years ? There was a contention not so long ago about that.
It is stated as a kind of "statute of limitations" on launching rent investigations. In real life, the landlords will perform a very basic renovation on a vacant place, then look for a certain kind of tenant. It's funny how often transplants will side with landlords, probably because they have no idea what anything is about. Then, the landlords wait it out.

Worse scenarios involve turning buildings into social service housing in order to collect the fairly large sums the city pays for each "tenant," and to warehouse the places until the market or neighborhood pick up. This is more common than people realize. The landlords never live in the neighborhood and so do not care.

Most of what the dishonest landlords do rewards deceit ! If inadvertently.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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A close family friend of mine...he has lived on 72nd near York for like 30 years in a 3BR apartment...Last time I spoke to him about this, he told me he was paying like $500 a month...His building also had an indoor parking garage which he had access to as well!! Talk about a great deal...
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