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OK on previous threads, most of us (Both New Yorkers and visitors) have agreed that New York City subway/metro system is in general dirty and needs lots of improvement (compared to other metro systems in other world cities with similar or slightly lower/higher population).
However since NYC Subway/Metro system runs 24/7/365 unlike any other city system, would you give up that keeping it closed for few hours every overnight in order to maintain it much cleaner and in better service, or would you keep it the way it is now (Running all the time & generally dirty).
The filth is not entirely related to the 24/7 service.
Clean platforms and power-washing the walls can be done every night for an hour with LIMITED interruption.
Aggressively fining subway litterers, people who throw-up / **** on the tracks, and those vandalizing the trains would make a big impact too.
New York is just a filthy city. It is hard to imagine that it used to be much worse.
The MTA is not in the business of Sanitation though. Treat major stations like parks, and put the parks department on clean-up.
I don't like the idea of closing down the subway (and I don't think it would work anyway). It's a huge city, and some people work overnight/early-morning shifts. Bars close late, so some people use the subway to travel back home. Closing it at 3 would be too early, and closing it at 4 or 4:30 would be too late because people will need it by 5/6 in the morning for work.
I don't really think it's that bad given how many people use it every single day. It gets hot in underground stations, and some are a little dirty, but overall it's not unbearable.
As long as you have human pigs riding the subway, who eat food and leave it behind, throw their bottles and wrappers and trash around in the trains, on the platform, and onto the tracks, even when there are trash cans within feet of them, the subways will never be really clean.
As long as you have little idiots who can't stand to see nice clean subway cars and try to mark them up with their crappy scratchitti and graffitti (as I saw on one of the more modern trains on the L line, which was a shame) things are going to continue on this way.
The filth is not entirely related to the 24/7 service.
Clean platforms and power-washing the walls can be done every night for an hour with LIMITED interruption.
Aggressively fining subway litterers, people who throw-up / **** on the tracks, and those vandalizing the trains would make a big impact too.
New York is just a filthy city. It is hard to imagine that it used to be much worse.
The MTA is not in the business of Sanitation though. Treat major stations like parks, and put the parks department on clean-up.
shutting down the subway would ruin the rep of new york. are you people so hurt about what non new yorkers say about nyc that your willing to make the city actually sleep to compare??
its a fact that new york city is not as filthy as these people on city data make it. The answer is simple. Police need to make more strict littering fines, and enforce them. As for the the mta they could add a extra clean up train to the system.
As for the rats. I mean the rat issue isnt so huge to a point their running on your feet. For the most part i see 1 - 3 rats on the tracks at a platform underground usually. I dont think nyc is close to getting rid of the rat issue.
but on a bright note. The mta is renovating the stations at a good rate, and 10 years from now the new nyc subways are going to creep up on you.
by my house in midwood the b/q line stations look brand new. Now compare that to a year ago when the station looked like a pure disaster. Mold everywhere, trash everywhere, just pure filth. Now it looks brand new as if it was built from scratch this year.
Stop complaining and be patient.
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