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Old 11-10-2012, 10:23 AM
 
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If the main reason for the long lines is that people are topping off their gas every day for fear of not getting any, odd/even might help. If the main reason for the long lines is not enough gas is available to serve those who are low on gasoline, it isn't going to help. However, as more gasoline becomes available, lines will reduce -- and the governor will give rationing the credit.

I think it's mostly a way of the governors being able to "do something".
they arent topping off every day but every other day is possible and certainly 2x a week is the norm for those who commute.

stations are pumping untill they are out of gas and thats still filling the same number of cars a day as it did before odd/even.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:35 AM
 
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In my opinion, the gov't should temporarily lift price gouging restrictions in these situations. People from other states would gladly drive trucks full of fuel if they knew they could make some money. I would much rather pay $8 a gallon for a month or two than have this kind of situation.
Price gouging restrictions are only a part of it. You probably need a dozen different permits to transport and sell gasoline in NYC, which can't be acquired on short notice. Each and every one of these permits and regulations is constantly defended on the grounds of safety and/or consumer protection (e.g. weights&measures certifying the accuracy of the pumps). But every regulation no matter how good the reason for it reduces flexibility and agility, and that really shows at times like this.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: La La Land
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The real problem is that NYC is full of mentally unstable A $ $ holes who can't stand their lives. Hence, they must constantly be on the move in their cars running from the tiny little hells they have created for themselves.
At a time when we all have suffered a major disaster, and many are homeless, instead of remaining calm and perhaps sacrificing a little by walking or not driving continuously, the loonies are out in force.
The biggest offenders are the minivan mommies who can't stand being home one minute with their devil spawn.
The problem is not the people who are going to work which is a NECESSITY. It is NOT A NECESSITY to drive two blocks to get bagels, pizza, fast food, or go to the movies. It is NOT NECESSARY to burn gas driving around to "see what has happened".
This city is its own worst enemy.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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if you have been on the parkways the last week they are a far cry from what they were.

alot less people are driving.

i was on the northern state getting on at lakeville road and going to the cross island in rush hour yesterday and it looked like 3am on the roads.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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quite surprisingly i just looked at gas buddy just now and quite a few greens in the same area's are showing they got a fuel delivery.

with people filling up and driving less hopefully they will be off the line a bit cutting the waits down,. last night was awful in our area with waits of 2 hours at times.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:15 PM
 
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i had to wait only 25 minutes on voorhies and knapp St this morning
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:39 PM
 
Location: North Eastern U.S.
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Don't you hate it when just as you get up to the gas pumps to fill up your car... the blasted gas station runs out of gas!! Just my luck today...
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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The problem is not the people who are going to work which is a NECESSITY. It is NOT A NECESSITY to drive two blocks to get bagels, pizza, fast food, or go to the movies. It is NOT NECESSARY to burn gas driving around to "see what has happened".
Nobody in NYC drives two blocks to get bagels, pizza, fast food, or the movies. Where would you park?

Anyway, my area of Essex County, NJ has had no lines for gas today or yesterday, so if you're looking to come out to NJ, fear not; you can fill up and not be stranded (provided you have the right-numbered plate or saved some souveniers from your plate-making days)
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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The only reason there is gas rationing, shortages, long lines is because the authorities don't allow the free market to work its way through the mess. Blame your politicians for this situation -- shortages, lines, poor services are trademarks of socialism.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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The only reason there is gas rationing, shortages, long lines is because the authorities don't allow the free market to work its way through the mess. Blame your politicians for this situation -- shortages, lines, poor services are trademarks of socialism.
Bingo. It's a well-documented economic fact that anti-price gouging laws are counterproductive, yet politicians still enact them because they're an excuse to grab power and people are too unthinking to see past it. Perfect example of why I'm fairly libertarian.

This is one of the richest parts of one of the richest nations on Earth. The capacity to provide gas is there, it just needs to be made profitable. So let them charge more for it so we can get the gas. Prices will come down when the supply-chain returns to normal. Basic economics here.
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