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Old 11-26-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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Hello,

I noticed a lot of people around me don't last in NYC very long.

I'm thinking maybe 3 months. I quite like the advantage of it, because my flings can be so finite. But after noticing the pattern, the turnover rate, I was beginning to wonder

is 3 months generally the norm?

like for aspiring models, artists, and others

what are your observations fellow new yorkers?
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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You mean DIE, Break Up, Give up on Career, Move Out, Remain Hopeful?
What do you mean by "last?"
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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It should be fairly simple to understand... I'm pretty sure he's talking about those that came to this city looking for opportunities they supposedly "couldn't find anywhere else" and then ended up realizing this city wasn't worth it...

To answer the OP's question... From what I see mainly from the areas nearby to me the biggest issue isn't money and surviving in this city because many transplants simply look for other transplants to live with and generally have like 3 or 4 in an apartment each paying 500 or whatever for a crappy apt. in East Williamsburg/Southside/Bushwick... It's why the rent near the borderlines of all those areas are so expensive despite the crime that takes place around there... That being said, the biggest issue for them is the one that I just mentioned... Though you will never hear that from a transplant currently living in the area... Certain parts of Bushwick I've seen seem to be like a revolving door for these people and while others decide to move within the city to the next "raw edgy scene" like Mott Haven or the Grand Concourse area, it is true as well that many move back home to their comfy suburban homes to live with their parents again because they couldn't take the negatives that NYC had to offer...

But of course though, the ones that mention these negatives for the future NYC hopefuls are in the wrong for stating these things... smh
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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I think I may have morphed into a native. When I read this, I realized I am never in the position of meeting brand new transplant hopefuls anymore.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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It should be fairly simple to understand... I'm pretty sure he's talking about those that came to this city looking for opportunities they supposedly "couldn't find anywhere else" and then ended up realizing this city wasn't worth it...
So then you take the OP's use of the word "last" to mean the amount of time until the average newcomer gives up hope of success?
Believe me, that isn't "fairly simple to understand" from the OP at all and I'm not sure that's what was meant. My best guess is "last" means the amount of time til the person moves out of the City. But that is only a guess.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: NY,NY
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So then you take the OP's use of the word "last" to mean the amount of time until the average newcomer gives up hope of success?
Believe me, that isn't "fairly simple to understand" from the OP at all and I'm not sure that's what was meant. My best guess is "last" means the amount of time til the person moves out of the City. But that is only a guess.
What is the difference?

Are you implying that people move to NYC, have success, then choose to leave, all in three months??!!

What is the logic for that?
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:10 PM
 
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You mean DIE, Break Up, Give up on Career, Move Out, Remain Hopeful?
What do you mean by "last?"
I mean, move out due to lack of fame, fortunes, grandeur, success, marketability, etc.

Where are you from by the way?
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:11 PM
 
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It should be fairly simple to understand... I'm pretty sure he's talking about those that came to this city looking for opportunities they supposedly "couldn't find anywhere else" and then ended up realizing this city wasn't worth it...

To answer the OP's question... From what I see mainly from the areas nearby to me the biggest issue isn't money and surviving in this city because many transplants simply look for other transplants to live with and generally have like 3 or 4 in an apartment each paying 500 or whatever for a crappy apt. in East Williamsburg/Southside/Bushwick... It's why the rent near the borderlines of all those areas are so expensive despite the crime that takes place around there... That being said, the biggest issue for them is the one that I just mentioned... Though you will never hear that from a transplant currently living in the area... Certain parts of Bushwick I've seen seem to be like a revolving door for these people and while others decide to move within the city to the next "raw edgy scene" like Mott Haven or the Grand Concourse area, it is true as well that many move back home to their comfy suburban homes to live with their parents again because they couldn't take the negatives that NYC had to offer...

But of course though, the ones that mention these negatives for the future NYC hopefuls are in the wrong for stating these things... smh
okay, well I've heard many various conflicting reasons explaining why transplants keep the rent high in Williamsburg

but what time frame does this happen in, its an open ended discussion, just wondering your observations or opinion
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:04 AM
 
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Most of my friends are natives or ppl who have lived here for years so I wouldn't know
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:40 AM
 
Location: NYPD"s 30th Precinct
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I don't think you can just pin a single number across the hundreds of thousands of people that move here. Some will make it, some (maybe most) won't, it's that simple.

I've been here for a couple of years (and Westchester for 3 years before here), and am doing better than I would have ever thought. I've known some people that are back home within a few months.

But hey, if you have the safety net of being able to pick up and move back home with no major losses if things don't work out here, then I say go for it. YOLO, as the kids say.
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