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I will say that this is b/c most black&latin youth in NYC are straight up morons. Especially the males.
NYC urban youth culture is all about instant gratification, looking flashy/cool, swag and shallowness. No long-term planning whatsoever. The root issue behind this is that most minority kids who grow up in NYC come from lower-income broken homes so kids from these messed up environments head to the NYC public schools and create an environment of retardedness and chaos. Most young NYC blacks make all metro area blacks look triflin. LOTS AND LOTS of ratchetness!!
Once most responsible and upwardly mobile minorities reach middle class status, their butts either head straight for the suburbs, go to the far east extremities of Queens or leave the region altogether. I grew up pretty close to NYC and I had and still have many friends who went through NYC public schools and most of them are COMPLETE screw ups. Oh god and then some of these hoodrats use section 8 to come to better areas and bring their putrid ghettoness out here..
BUT PEOPLE, DONT GET IT TWISTED. There are plenty of white kids shooting up heroin into their veins, passin out drunk, poppin pills, cheating on standardized tests and smoking meth so i'm NOT trying to imply that all whites are perfect and all blacks/latins are screw ups. I'm just tellin things like it is so don't even come for me.
Last edited by PrestigiousReputability; 08-09-2013 at 07:54 AM..
As a New Yorker and an American I have to say is this, that their needs to be a greater emphasis support of public education from k-12. I have been reading many blogs and threads on education for the past few weeks and everyone is saying the same thing I am saying. Public schools need to prepare youths not for todays economy as well as yesterdays which is all but dead, but for that of tomorrow. Teach students how to write codes for software, teach students in high school IT. Teach students topics and skills so that after high school graduation, graduates can go out in the work force instead of going to college and racking up 40-80k of debt in tuition fees, stuff like this hurts NYC and America as a whole in the long run and its not going to get any better if this current system of education persists.
One thing I have noticed is that New Yorkers are not prepared for college but also not prepared for seeking employment in their own front yard except for fast food and retail, if lucky enough public and private sector service jobs. NYC is far too competitive for the average New Yorker these days to garner or not obtain employment because of education. I have always wondered why some employers choose out of towners and other would be Yuppie Transplants over New Yorkers regardless of race or income strata. If education in NYC does not improve, all I can see is another round of continues gentrification for another ten more years of college grads coming from the Midwest scooping up jobs from those noses of native New Yorkers.
Last but least I also put blame on the education system for sidlinign academic achievement for other topics like health that can harm learning such as teen pregnancy and obesity. When worrying about teen pregnancy and obesity for the past decade took away too much attention for educators to confront the real problem in schools which is academic achievement.
Another thing is culture and values. American culture and value system is based on ego, superstar and being the best. This type of attitude and culture is exhibited in our economic capitalist system. Some will be achievers many will not, some will quit and some will cheat to get ahead like those kids who attended those specialized NYC high schools and cheated on exams to get ahead. If Education can become more collective than individualistic maybe then the academic achievement gap will close for all people, but I know for sure Obama is reading this and probably me talking about this is boarder line treason. But hey I really enjoy watching videos of students in Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China, DRP of North Korea and Cuba learning. Call me socialist but these countries have or had or has education down pack.
But at the end of the day, do we really want a city and a nation where anyone and everyone has a college degree, or if everyone and anyone is educated? What about the prison industrial system which thrives of uneducated people who have no guidance in life but crime, or the health industrial complex which depends on welfare recipients to trail medications and other health related schemes. Or even the military industrial complex which needs soldiers who in list into service straight out of high school. Overall NYC, NY State and the entire U.S of A is doomed.
Last edited by Bronxguyanese; 08-09-2013 at 08:48 AM..
Its getting worse. Sometimes i feel that we are reverting to a form of 21 century barbarism. Rather than becoming more civilized, as maybe expected from a mature civilization we are sliding down to a culture lacking in morality and respect for our fellow citizen. The primary goal of many Americans today is to accumulate as much money as possible using any means necessary, with absolutely no compassion for anyone less fortunate. Me myself and I to hell with the rest! Elitism, predjudice, greed, hatred, war mongering, ignorance and disregard for truth these are the values that dominates today and might very vell bring this country down.
Last edited by Northwindsforever; 08-09-2013 at 09:26 AM..
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Where to begin.....ah yes, let's start with young men thinking it's acceptable to walk around with pants below their azz in the name of fashion. This is the generation of "stop snitching" and "keepin it real", gangster culture is glorified and emulated.
It's PATHETIC already. I'm Latina, grew up in a poor neighborhood....went on to get a Stern MBA. My siblings all followed very similar paths, one even went Ivy. I would say that our success in this country (as first generation immigrants) is due to the fact that our parents WOULD NOT let us hang around with the neighborhood kids! They did not want us to turn out like them, instead we were walked to and from the library by my mom and spent our summers reading.
I do understand that this is difficult to do in a single parent home and absentee fathers have a deterimental impact on our youth- both boys and girls; however, I believe firmly that in this great country of ours there are resources for those that want to succeed. Libraries are free and if you have a student metrocard, you can get to the greatest libraries our city has to offer.
Black and Latino boys aren't graduating because they don't want. Enough with the violins already, kids in war ravaged areas of the world would give anything for a chance at an education and here we have morons of all races choosing to pass on it because "life is hard"- whatever.
Where to begin.....ah yes, let's start with young men thinking it's acceptable to walk around with pants below their azz in the name of fashion. This is the generation of "stop snitching" and "keepin it real", gangster culture is glorified and emulated.
It's PATHETIC already. I'm Latina, grew up in a poor neighborhood....went on to get a Stern MBA. My siblings all followed very similar paths, one even went Ivy. I would say that our success in this country (as first generation immigrants) is due to the fact that our parents WOULD NOT let us hang around with the neighborhood kids! They did not want us to turn out like them, instead we were walked to and from the library by my mom and spent our summers reading.
I do understand that this is difficult to do in a single parent home and absentee fathers have a deterimental impact on our youth- both boys and girls; however, I believe firmly that in this great country of ours there are resources for those that want to succeed. Libraries are free and if you have a student metrocard, you can get to the greatest libraries our city has to offer.
Black and Latino boys aren't graduating because they don't want. Enough with the violins already, kids in war ravaged areas of the world would give anything for a chance at an education and here we have morons of all races choosing to pass on it because "life is hard"- whatever.
Well at least someone is living in reality and not blaming us White folks for once.
Well at least someone is living in reality and not blaming us White folks for once.
When you look at America's history, it's very clear that they are to blame. If you don't agree then you have to at least agree that they played a major role.
If you used some of your self-proclaimed Riverdale money to learn some history, you would know about a little something called slavery....and even how strong the [white-ran] media is of influencing societal behaviors. Of course the White people around today generally aren't to blame but denying slavery and it's modern day effects is as naive as denying the Holocaust.
When you look at America's history, it's very clear that they are to blame. If you don't agree then you have to at least agree that they played a major role.
If you used some of your self-proclaimed Riverdale money to learn some history, you would know about a little something called slavery....and even how strong the [white-ran] media is of influencing societal behaviors. Of course the White people around today generally aren't to blame but denying slavery and it's modern day effects is as naive as denying the Holocaust.
Here we go. How long ago was slavery? Oh and last I checked, it wasn't just Blacks being enslaved. MANY different groups of people were enslaved! I get so sick of hearing about slavery and how it's holding back the Black man (or "the brothas" as you would say) over a hundred years later even though Blacks weren't the only enslaved group. Blacks have so many opportunities these days, more than ever and in fact us White folks have more barriers than ever so spare me with the lame excuses. I think some people confuse laziness and shiftiness with racism.
Well at least someone is living in reality and not blaming us White folks for once.
Ha! So long as "the man" continues to pay my lucrative salary, we have no beef whatesover.
In all seriousness, any ethnic/minority/person of color that chooses to blame "the system" is setting themselves up for a life of mediocrity. Yes, it definitely SUCKS to be born poor, however, you'll be hard pressed to find any country where you can change your socio economic class as easily as you can here. Does that mean you'll have to work hard- yes! It also means you probably have to go to school and study something that you aren't passionate about....yes Ethnic Studies is fun and in college who doesn't love to a good rally but GOOD LUCK making a comfortable living on that. Grow up people, grow up.
Here we go. How long ago was slavery? Oh and last I checked, it wasn't just Blacks being enslaved. MANY different groups of people were enslaved! I get so sick of hearing about slavery and how it's holding back the Black man (or "the brothas" as you would say) over a hundred years later even though Blacks weren't the only enslaved group. Blacks have so many opportunities these days, more than ever and in fact us White folks have more barriers than ever so spare me with the lame excuses. I think some people confuse laziness and shiftiness with racism.
In AMERICA, the vast majority of slaves were Black. For a brief period in time, Native Americans were slaves and even that group exhibits similar trends as African Americans.
What happens in other countries is irrelevant. I am speaking of the USA and the USA only here.
What you have to understand is that behaviors are usually passed down generationally. This is common knowledge and there are countless studies that prove this (ever heard of the saying; "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"?)
If almost an entire group of people were forced to believe that they were only suited for physical jobs and entertainment then that is the mentality that will get passed down generationally. IN ADDITION TO THAT, it's obvious that the caucasian-run media also fuels and perpetuates those stereotypes even subconsciously.
If you want a *real world example*, you can compare the current overall success of Black African immigrants to the general lack of success of African Americans.
What is the common denominator? ONE GROUP WASN'T LARGELY ENSLAVED AND ONE WAS.
However, I do agree that some Black people should stop focusing on slavery. But you just can't deny the past. A fact is a fact and reality is and was reality.
Last edited by PrestigiousReputability; 08-09-2013 at 11:31 AM..
In AMERICA, the vast majority of slaves were Black. For a brief period in time, Native Americans were slaves and even that group exhibits similar trends as African Americans.
What happens in other countries is irrelevant. I am speaking of the USA and the USA only here.
What you have to understand is that behaviors are usually passed down generationally. It is common knowledge and there are countless studies that prove this (ever heard of the saying; "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"?)
If almost an entire group of people were forced to believe that they were only suited for physical jobs and entertainment then that is the mentality that will get passed down to generationally. IN ADDITION TO THAT, it's obvious that the caucasian-run media also fuels and perpetuates those stereotypes even subconsciously.
If you want a *real world example*, you can compare the overall success of Black African immigrants to the general lack of success of African Americans.
What is the common denominator? ONE GROUP WASN'T LARGELY ENSLAVED AND ONE WAS.
However, I do agree that some Black people should stop focusing on slavery. But you just can't deny the past. A fact is a fact.
No one is denying the past. I just wish some people could stop living in the past. For what it's worth, plenty of White people (yes, WHITE people) fought to end slavery. That's a little detail that some like to exclude though.
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When worrying about teen pregnancy and obesity for the past decade took away too much attention for educators to confront the real problem in schools which is academic achievement. 
