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Old 01-15-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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You'll be giving it up for free soon enough.
No, I won't. There will never be that much desperation. I take very good care of myself and can be "picky" if I want to.

I already know that when I get in my sixties, I'll probably be somebody's "sugar mama", because I want strong, fit, HANDSOME men still and as an older woman (just like an older man), I know I will have to "pay" for such amenities. LOL!

The problem with many of the baby boomer older guys is that they really believe that somebody in her twenties would actually find them sexy or remotely attractive. Since when??

Case in point, this Iowa article:
http://www.gadailynews.com/news/nati...-marriage.html

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Women have a short shelf life as it is ( when it comes sexuality vis a vis the opposite sex) and that holds more true in NYC.
It really does depend on WHAT she looks like and the type of "swag" she has. I've seen women in their 40s put many younger women to shame in the looks and body departments. I don't know if it's the diet or whatever, but with many young girls TODAY, once they hit their mid-twenties are fat and sloppy.

Also, many of the transplants that come to NYC from the midwest (not all, but a good majority) are not cute (except the ones that move to LA) and it doesn't matter how much money they spend to "upgrade" their look, they're still not attractive. They're just basic or average looking women that got their hair and makeup done and they still lack the swag or sex appeal to pull it off. They need to go back to the farm where they came from.

Anyways, I still intend to enjoy a first, second or third date dinner free existence for the next 20 years or so, since I don't plan on dealing with cheap or broke men. I like men who KNOW their PLACE in life.

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Whereas men tend to get more attractive with age ( on average),
Oh man, if ONLY that were really true. LIES, all LIES. If you weren't attractive when you were younger, you'll just get uglier as the years go by. THIS IS FACT.

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women don't. Most men will take a less attractive 25 year old over a more attractive 35 year old any day.
Have you seen the "less attractive 25 year olds" lately??

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I'm not saying you should change your philosophy when it comes to " giving it up" but don't discount the valid reasons for why some women give it up so soon.
I don't care what other women do with THEIR vaginas, but I know as of RIGHT NOW (and in the next several years to come) that I will not be giving up my "pot of gold" for FREE. Doesn't matter if I'm 20 or 60, it's still GOLD. Did you know that GRANNY porn pulls in millions of dollars for the porn companies? Whereas, NO ONE wants to see an old 60 year old man getting it on with ANYONE. LOL Sad, but true.

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If they're not planning on marriage anytime soon ( say before 30) it actually makes sense to treat sex as a hobby.
Yeah, but still make dude at least buy you a happy meal or something. Jeez.

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Once you have to compete with 20 And 25 year olds, you'll be practically begging for dudes to screwyou on the first date. I'm not even joking.
NEVER!!! LOLOLOL!!!

Like I said, when I'm in my SIXTIES, I'll pay for the sweet young things to blow my back out, but as of RIGHT NOW, none of that will be an "issue".

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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We have to reject the notion that women have a "shelf life" (and I'm one of those young 20s women). Who needs immature men who are after girls half their age? Whenever an older, typically unattractive man—10 or more years older—tries to flirt with me, I usually direct him toward the nearest woman of his own age that I spot. Apologies to her, of course, for dumping the loser on her.
I co-sign this entire post, especially the highlighted.

I don't go by the INTERNET for dating "advice" or trends, because I have never experienced this. I have never had a man ask me to go dutch or "chip in" on the initial stages of the dates and I will NEVER "volunteer" either, because I don't want to set a "precedent" with that nonsense.

These same guys will want a "hug" or a "kiss" after you just chipped in for your OWN dinner and in all honesty, I would not be able to do this. As a matter of fact, as soon as he 'happily' accepted my money for the date, I would end it and never speak to him again. Yes, I would, but then again, that's ME.

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Men like to daydream on the internet of scenarios where high quality, attractive women will "give it up" in exchange for minimal effort on their part. They revel in this idea that by having sex, they're "taking" something from her. Women are convinced that they have to rush out and settle for the first loser who says "hey baby". And who's to say that it's the woman who gives anything up? How do you know that you're not giving it up? What if you're another notch on her bedpost and she goes to hi-five her girlfriends later for bagging yet another easy man without self-respect?
This is what's so sad. For every woman that expects men to do their "duty" as MEN, there will be a hundred others that all it will take to get the drawers is nice compliments and a warm body to feel good about themselves. I don't understand how you could sleep with a man and still have to borrow money from friends to keep your lights on or pay your rent.

This makes absolutely no sense. Why are you afraid to ask this man for help? He's leaving sperm stains on your sheets and eating up your food. What gives?

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:42 AM
 
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Some women don't want men to pay for them because they don't like traditional female roles. They want to set the precedence early on that they want to be seen differently. I find more and more women think this way now. Especially moreso amongst White women.

Not saying one way is right or preferable to the other. I think many men welcome the lesser hit on their wallets but for less attractive men they lose a "tool" they can use to even things out in their favor. In general I would still say men should pay for those first few dates unless the woman is very insistent on that she chip in. You know, those dates before you are really in a relationship. Some women will say that they want to chip in but then will judge the man if lets her do so.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:49 AM
 
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Some women don't want men to pay for them because they don't like traditional female roles. They want to set the precedence early on that they want to be seen differently. I find more and more women think this way now. Especially moreso amongst White women.


Not saying one way is right or preferable to the other. I think many men welcome the lesser hit on their wallets but for less attractive men they lose a "tool" they can use to even things out in their favor. In general I would still say men should pay for those first few dates unless the woman is very insistent on that she chip in. You know, those dates before you are really in a relationship. Some women will say that they want to chip in but then will judge the man if lets her do so.
Yep, many will do this just to 'see' what he does, then get upset when he takes them up on their offer.

Why even do it in the first place, if you know this is something you DON'T want? It's never made sense to me.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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What's all this talk about women having a shelf life? I get hit on regularly (at 33 none the less) by men that are 23, 33, 43, 53, etc. Then again, black don't crack so
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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What's all this talk about women having a shelf life? I get hit on regularly (at 33 none the less) by men that are 23, 33, 43, 53, etc. Then again, black don't crack so
Nope!

Especially if you take care of yourself.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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What's all this talk about women having a shelf life? I get hit on regularly (at 33 none the less) by men that are 23, 33, 43, 53, etc. Then again, black don't crack so
I think people say that because traditionally there has been more pressure on women to marry, have kids etc by a certain age.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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I think people say that because traditionally there has been more pressure on women to marry, have kids etc by a certain age.
Well yes, but only biologically and only in the case of having children, but I don't think we're talking about that here. Much of the negative commentary is on how much hotter a 25 year old is than a 35 year old. That's not always the case. Especially since older, attractive, women carry an air of sophistication that a 22 year old can't pull off. Also consider that within NYC people tend to marry later in life, for various reasons, and there are a lot of 30 something women around here who have no trouble getting dates and finding marriage partners. Most of my friends have just started getting married and they've all found their partners within the last two years. So OP, no need for you to be concerned at 28.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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^Agreed. In fact I would say women in their 30's are more attractive overall. They are more mature, play less games, less superficial, more experienced in you know what , they are usually more financially stable, etc.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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I hope that we can make our points and feel good about ourselves without downing other age groups.
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