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Originally Posted by Airborneguy
I've seen you mention this before. If you're talking about hunting with longarms, it's a moot point. Anyone with a valid hunting license in NY can be in possession of a long gun while hunting. You don't need a gun permit at all.
I still can't see what the other guy's issue is. Doesn't live here, doesn't have to follow the rules here, hasn't had anyone agree with him... It's horn-tooting and it's pointless.
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handgun hunting is what im talking about. it has the potential of being a very slippery area. the residence permit comes with a permission slip stapled to it if you request a hunting and range authorization.
the police commissioner signs it and says you can go hunting and to an authorized nyc range with this permit.
problem is state law has no provisions for that permit to be off premise to hunt or even unlimited range use .
if you remember back to the old target hunting permit nyc had that was actually a carry permit that was restricted to target and hunting by your request.
there is no such permit in state law as a target hunting permit .
you had to check a box on the application that said you wanted it for target shooting and hunting, if you did not check it you got nothing.
so pretty much you got a restricted carry permit.
well in the eyes of the state that was a carry permit. everyone used to carry and if you got caught it was not a crime. it was an administrative violation for mis-use and worst case was they pulled your permit.
that is the thing most people miss, we had more then 30,000 citizens in nyc carrying guns with that permit only no one knew it because technically you were not supposed to be..
the guy sitting next to you on the train may have been armed. no one went around like the wild west shooting each other. there were very few incidents even though so many carryed .
so nyc changed to a residence permit which did have criminal penalies attached if you got caught carrying.
the issue now was state law said you can not be off premise except once a month to go to a range providing you got written authorization in advance from nypd. no hunting either.
so nypd's answer was a seperate permission slip attached to your license. the slip makes you licence valid for hunting and going to a nyc approved range and invalid for anything else. GOTCHA!
the fact is that slip is really invalid out of the city.
the rest of the state can follow state law and challenge you for being in their jurisdiction with a premise permit. that slip means nothing outside of nyc.
so far no jurisdiction broke rank and hassled a nyc handgun hunter so although the validity of the permit has been challenged in court it had been dismissed since no one can say that they had an issue with it outside the city.
the advantage of the residence permit is that unlike the target hunting permit which required the handgun to be locked and unloaded at home, the residence permit says it can be cocked ,locked and loaded at home.
the fly in the ointment is when you are not home it is expected to be unloaded and locked which can be a real pain in the butt . only when under your control can it be loaded.