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Old 02-16-2013, 04:31 PM
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My point is that there are certain parties that profit off of drugs being illegal. These same parties would love to preserve that. Legalize marijuana and u stop their money.
There's a section of Northern California where marijuana growing makes up a large chunk of the economy. Some of the locals were opposed to state marijuana legalization because they thought it'd be bad for their region.
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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My point is that there are certain parties that profit off of drugs being illegal. These same parties would love to preserve that. Legalize marijuana and u stop their money.
True.
The DEA and other narc law enforcment in addition to drug dealers, big pharma, alcohol and tobacco companies all see legalization as a threat to their respective bottom lines.

Too bad for them I guess.
Public opinion polls show an steady increase in favor of legalization. It will happen whether they like it or not
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Old 02-16-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Miami
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I believe drugs should be legalized but I don't want my local friendly heroin dealer to set up a shop nearby.
imagine THAT

Maybe they should legalize all that crap already(pot, heroine, crack, cocaine) and show gross commercials like the tobocco ones. They would have plenty of material. Let natural selection take care of all the junkies and hopefully by year 3000 we'll have normal humans who don't need to be in an altered state of mind to have fun.

By the way I'm NOT being sarcastic
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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Then you go after and close down the black market.

We could cut down the murder rate if we legalized murder because all would be armed.

But there would go whatever morality is left in this country.
But, anyone who wants a gun in the country can get one.
You don't need to be facetious. I am talking about things people want to do that are prohibited. Most people really do not wish to murder. That is a really dumb and off the mark comment.

What is morality? Basically, to behave in an honorable way so that civilization can operate smoothly.
So we, hopefully, don't cheat or steal or lie.
How would legalizing anything encourage cheating or stealing or lying any more than what is being done right now, with prohibition? It wouldn't.

We would just have business as usual, but with less corruption of officials, less kids in prison, less venereal disease.

Don't forget how bootlegging made some people very wealthy. There are some very wealthy people today who have made many bucks under the table who are fighting legalization of these things, tooth and nail, and on 'moral' grounds.
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:29 PM
 
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guess prison population "costs" too much lol

Legalizing murder wouldn't cut down anything poor borderline stupid example.....why do people think legalizing anything will reduce the occurence of it. In certain cases it does the complete opp.

All legalizing does is control the activity while it perpetuates. Alcohol Prohibition Era, white Collar crime, and gambling are perfect examples of this.

The problem with weed is that it is considered a gateway drug, thus it will forever remain illegal in the US. Until pot heads stop going from weed to crack-cocaine-heroin-meth then it will continue to be illegal in US.
I think that is a misnomer.
Most people who drink alcohol drank mother's milk. Is that a gateway drug?
Most people who smoke pot drank alcohol. Is booze a gateway drug?
A lot of people have had marijuana and never anything stronger.
It is probably the most widespread drug as far as the number of people who have sampled it.
If all those people, or even HALF had gone on to stronger stuff we'd have a much bigger problem than we now do.
In the same context, air is a gateway drug to murder. Ridiculous?
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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If drugs were made legal then the government would lose too much money and people will be out of a job.
Law enforcement would be free to catch real criminals.
Gangs would be broken up.
Excess federal funds might go to drug treatment centers and mental health counseling.
New jobs would be created in those fields.
Government could tax drugs.
Farmers would have more crops.
The distribution chain would expand.
Fewer kidney deaths, one would hope. (Maybe an increase in lung problems, though. )
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:34 PM
 
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I believe drugs should be legalized but I don't want my local friendly heroin dealer to set up a shop nearby.
Sure, just like NYC moved the hookers out of Times Square. They are still around, but I don't hear a lot of complaints because they are not in residential areas or they are VERY discrete.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:02 PM
 
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But, anyone who wants a gun in the country can get one.
You don't need to be facetious. I am talking about things people want to do that are prohibited. Most people really do not wish to murder. That is a really dumb and off the mark comment.

What is morality? Basically, to behave in an honorable way so that civilization can operate smoothly.
So we, hopefully, don't cheat or steal or lie.
How would legalizing anything encourage cheating or stealing or lying any more than what is being done right now, with prohibition? It wouldn't.

We would just have business as usual, but with less corruption of officials, less kids in prison, less venereal disease.

Don't forget how bootlegging made some people very wealthy. There are some very wealthy people today who have made many bucks under the table who are fighting legalization of these things, tooth and nail, and on 'moral' grounds.
Agreed 100%.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:59 PM
 
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Naive.

How about answering the question? With a supporting link?
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I believe drugs should be legalized but I don't want my local friendly heroin dealer to set up a shop nearby.
I don't fully agree with you. There are substances that should never ever reach the bodega shelf.
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