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that's because the city was much more mass transit friendly years ago. someone who is native to New York will have a different opinion than someone is came here from somewhere else.
Okay, how was the city much more mass transit friendly years ago and what years are you talking about? Are you referring to the price? Are you adjusting for inflation? Are you talking about when there were more elevated trains and fewer subways? What?
the white parts of SI voted more for McCain (didn't fully analyze Romney yet) then the best parts of most North Eastern states.
except the Orthodox parts of NY (outside of the city) the most Conservative parts of NY state are in NYC.
So... S.I. is not a conservative place. More so then the rest of the city, yes, generally. Not so much on a national level. Liberal on the national standing. I also disagree about NYC having the most conservative parts of the state.
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that's because the city was much more mass transit friendly years ago. someone who is native to New York will have a different opinion than someone is came here from somewhere else.
I disagree. SBS (Bus lanes, ticketing cameras, red light synchronization), subway expansions (Second Ave Subway/T, 7 train extension), East Side Access, completed and planned Metro North station expansions, new rolling stock, station renovations, fast rack, ect. The vast majority of people alive are seeing the system at it's best in their lifetimes.
Click and read that article about cities struggle keeping millennials within city confines . I saw this coming a mile away that as 20 somethings age into their 30s their outlooks and perspectives on family and housing change as well. I hope NYC can retain its hipster, yuppie transplant population in the coming years, if not the city is gonna have a tax problem with natives young moving to greener pastures, retirees moving to sunshine and now hipsters moving to burbs for better schools. I had my hopes on out of towners introducing suburban sensibilities into NYC public schools, man was I wrong.
So... S.I. is not a conservative place. More so then the rest of the city, yes, generally. Not so much on a national level. Liberal on the national standing. I also disagree about NYC having the most conservative parts of the state.
It'd be hard to find a place in NY state as republican voting as the Hasidic Jewish areas of Brooklyn, Borough Park in particular.
Click and read that article about cities struggle keeping millennials within city confines . I saw this coming a mile away that as 20 somethings age into their 30s their outlooks and perspectives on family and housing change as well. I hope NYC can retain its hipster, yuppie transplant population in the coming years, if not the city is gonna have a tax problem with natives young moving to greener pastures, retirees moving to sunshine and now hipsters moving to burbs for better schools. I had my hopes on out of towners introducing suburban sensibilities into NYC public schools, man was I wrong.
There is nothing in this article suggesting that millenials are starting to leave the cities. It is pure speculation.
NYC public schools (mostly elementary) in areas popular with transplants are getting much better. Hipsters in the suburbs is pure nonsense, and guys in the NYT article are not really hipsters but maybe rich artists.
The problem with the whole suburbs thing is that it just might be an anomaly. Sprawl is not sustainable.
The world trend is for more people to live in cities because of economies of scale and shorter commuting times. No one likes commuting and commuting for 3 hours each day is bordering on insanity. New York is huge, and commuting times from low-density suburbs are very long. If they were higher-density suburbs with good schools and cheaper housing, many people (hipsters or whatever) would move there and create a vibrant community. But density is too low. Just look at this Hastings town - they call it walkable, but it is just another sleepy village.
So... S.I. is not a conservative place. More so then the rest of the city, yes, generally. Not so much on a national level. Liberal on the national standing. I also disagree about NYC having the most conservative parts of the state.
I disagree. SBS (Bus lanes, ticketing cameras, red light synchronization), subway expansions (Second Ave Subway/T, 7 train extension), East Side Access, completed and planned Metro North station expansions, new rolling stock, station renovations, fast rack, ect. The vast majority of people alive are seeing the system at it's best in their lifetimes.
There wouldn't need to be a Second Avenue Subway had they not torn down the Second and Third Avenue elevated trains, mind you. Brooklyn lost the Third Avenue, 5th Avenue, Lexington Avenue, and Myrtle Avenue els. Brooklyn Bridge and Queensborough bridge used to carry trains. The city has a long way to go before they get back the train capacity they used to have.
Oh, a big part of the Rockaway Beach LIRR is not in service and is overgrown weeds (the rest of it the A train uses to access the Rockaways). The LIRR had more branches in Brooklyn and Queens that were shut down.
There is nothing in this article suggesting that millenials are starting to leave the cities. It is pure speculation.
NYC public schools (mostly elementary) in areas popular with transplants are getting much better. Hipsters in the suburbs is pure nonsense, and guys in the NYT article are not really hipsters but maybe rich artists.
The problem with the whole suburbs thing is that it just might be an anomaly. Sprawl is not sustainable.
The world trend is for more people to live in cities because of economies of scale and shorter commuting times. No one likes commuting and commuting for 3 hours each day is bordering on insanity. New York is huge, and commuting times from low-density suburbs are very long. If they were higher-density suburbs with good schools and cheaper housing, many people (hipsters or whatever) would move there and create a vibrant community. But density is too low. Just look at this Hastings town - they call it walkable, but it is just another sleepy village.
While you do have good points, cities have some bad points too. After awhile space becomes an issue.
Obviously, if you really have a lot of money you're going to want more space.
Do keep in mind CEOs like Bloomberg, though they will have residences in the city, they will also have suburban and rural estates as well.
As for commuting, there are people who both work and live in the suburbs, and believe it or not, people from cities sometimes commute to the suburbs. I have lived in Queens and worked in both Suffolk County and Nassau.
Click and read that article about cities struggle keeping millennials within city confines . I saw this coming a mile away that as 20 somethings age into their 30s their outlooks and perspectives on family and housing change as well. I hope NYC can retain its hipster, yuppie transplant population in the coming years, if not the city is gonna have a tax problem with natives young moving to greener pastures, retirees moving to sunshine and now hipsters moving to burbs for better schools. I had my hopes on out of towners introducing suburban sensibilities into NYC public schools, man was I wrong.
NYC is a different beast from other American cities. It will always attract young people as long as it retains: jobs, entertainment, nightlife, culture, high energy.
Cities are also sustainable and centers of influence, suburbs are not.
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It'd be hard to find a place in NY state as republican voting as the Hasidic Jewish areas of Brooklyn, Borough Park in particular.
Voting Republican doesn't necessarily correlate with being highly conservative.
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