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NYC has been traditionally the place where people get off the boat, literally. The movement has always been westward. Midwesterners moving to NYC has not been common. Has nothing to do with being an elitist.
What does that mean? Thanks for pointing out my typo. I meant to write midtown. You can't blame me though, I opened this thread at what 1:00 in in the morning or something?
NYC has been traditionally the place where people get off the boat, literally. The movement has always been westward. Midwesterners moving to NYC has not been common. Has nothing to do with being an elitist.
That's total nonsense. Creative people with big ideas and a drive to be successful have been drawn from all over the US to NYC for centuries now.
That's total nonsense. Creative people with big ideas and a drive to be successful have been drawn from all over the US to NYC for centuries now.
That's not what a city is about. It's not about proving something or trying to "make it" or whatever the transplants like to say. It's just a place where you live. I'm a New Yorker and as much as I like my city, I'm not going to pretend it's some sort of special place for elites to live or anything. That view of the city is not true.
That's not what a city is about. It's not about proving something or trying to "make it" or whatever the transplants like to say. It's just a place where you live. I'm a New Yorker and as much as I like my city, I'm not going to pretend it's some sort of special place for elites to live or anything. That view of the city is not true.
It's not one or the other. It's both a place where you live and the economic and cultural capital of America in most respects. I don't know why you'd want to ignore that. It's pretty important to the city's identity and always has been.
That's not what a city is about. It's not about proving something or trying to "make it" or whatever the transplants like to say. It's just a place where you live. I'm a New Yorker and as much as I like my city, I'm not going to pretend it's some sort of special place for elites to live or anything. That view of the city is not true.
You're joking, right? NYC is obviously different things to different people - but one thing that it has been for centuries now is a beacon for ambitious artists, businessmen, immigrants, or even just folks who want to reinvent themselves and be the person they weren't allowed to be in their stifling little home town. It IS a special place, no matter how much you want to deny it.
I would say that Manhattan has the most transients, but to be fair with all the recent immigration/transients to the outer boroughs no difference there. Unless your talking about neighborhoods that don't see as much immigration or transients like parts of S.I. and then fringes of the city.
Then there's then youth. It dwindles every year.
Certain groups don't use it at all. Those that have been getting big since the 70s+. I have yet to meet a West Indian (L.A.), Dominican, Central American, Columbian, or Far Eastern Euro with one.
The traditional NY accent is dieing. Oh well.
I have heard Colombians, some Dominicans, many/most Puerto Ricans, even Ecuadorian and mexicans who have lived here a long time and developed one. I knew an Ecuadorian guy and a Mexican guy (as in born there) who sounded like an Italian-Americans from Bensonhurst. It was actually kind of humorous.
because brooklyn has the most influence on the accent of the whole city, and it is the biggest borough and was a city long before manhattan was even thought about.
An inveterate Brooklynite who joins a law firm, or an ad agency in Manhattan and wants to advance, quickly learns to temper that "New York twang."
It's a societal thing...nobody wants to sound too "provincial." You're not gonna get far in an accounting firm in London with a strong cockney accent either.
I often voluntarily/sometimes involuntarily alter my accent/speech depending on where I am and what kind of setting it is. If I am at a job interview or speaking in a large group, I speak more softly, slowly, and try to enunciate the words. If I am with my friends from Brooklyn, the NY accents pops out. If I am around my friends from the Bronx, Yonkers, and elsewhere in NY, the accent comes out, plus some slang. If I am threatened or spoken to in a certain disrespectful way, it turns very Bronx ghetto in full force. I have been told a few times that my normal speaking voice sounds like a Puerto Rican Bronx accent if I don't alter it.
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