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Old 03-04-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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Move to Chicago. They planned and built the city with approximately 1,900 miles of alleys. That means that over 90% of the city's blocks have alleys! In addition to trash removal alleys are used for deliveries. That's convenient, eh?! What a good idea the city planners had back in the 1800's by building alleys.

Also, there is a Green Alley Program in Chicago that is pretty progressive.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:11 AM
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How would you like to be the residence where the giant dumpster (dippy dumpsters as we call them) is place in front of? They smell real sweat when the weather warms...
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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I don't think the system is fine now when we have piles of bags along the curb with rats feasting all night, and then wind/rain blowing loose garbage all over the street, blocking drains, etc. The garbage program stinks (literally) and the new Mayor should be rethinking how we dispose of garbage in NYC.

My idea is to mandate all buildings with 6 or fewer units to utilize steel garbage cans which are emptied by the garbage men...that solves the rat problem and loose garbage flying around. For larger buildings, I would like to see large steel containers along the curb (on the street), maybe 2 or 3 on each block depending on volume, where buildings would throw garbage, where rats cannot access and nothing gets blown out/around. Sanitation would then drive over and open a bottom portion to empty or have trucks that lift the container and empty into trucks.

Something needs to be done, because what we are doing, and have been doing for decades, is NOT working.
I have a feeling some of the homeless would take those containers over and make them their homes
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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I agree it is absolutely disgusting. Nothing like seeing your private belongings scattered all over the sidewalk b/c people just help themselves to picking through and throwing stuff anywhere. Suppose there is no alternative though.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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It is better than what exists today, which is garbage bags piled high blocking the sidewalk, rats feasting all night, and wind/rain blowing it everywhere. Instead you would have a container which would be filled only on garbage days..no rats running around, no garbage everywhere ...it would be a vast improvement.

Those containers would weigh a ton (literally) and would be 6-8 feet high, be filled with garbage, and emptied on garbage days, ..so I dont see bums wanting to live there.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:35 AM
 
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What exacerbates this problem is also the fact that buildings are no longer allowed to incinerate the garbage.

City's Last Waste Incinerator Is Torn Down - NYTimes.com
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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It's is better to eliminate the incinerators because the buildings were burning everything and anything, spewing toxic fumes across the city. Incinerators are not the answer.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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It's is better to eliminate the incinerators because the buildings were burning everything and anything, spewing toxic fumes across the city. Incinerators are not the answer.
Well definitely incinerators increased pollution and now that we don't have them the air quality is much better, but that also increased the problem of where to put the garbage. I'm not advocating the use of incinerators just pointing out the pros and cons.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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How about dug out areas below the sidewalk, grates on top. They can be accessed by the sanitation department when they do the rounds. Would solve the pedestrian space problem. Would slow down collection though.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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How would they move the garbage below grade to the garbage trucks though?
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