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Old 03-12-2013, 12:47 AM
 
Location: New York
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I've read several articles on the Kimani Gray shooting. The undercover cops were wrong for shooting him so many times, they shouldn't of fired their weapons more than 6 times. However, Kimani Gray had a gun on him, and he pointed it at the officer before, either one of the officers drew their weapons. Kimani aiming his weapon at law enforcement automatically puts those officers in a position to defend themselves,and they did. I'm totally against police brutally in any shape and form; however, the only problem I have with the story is the amount of times the officers shot Gray. There was no reason to shoot him so many times. In conclusion, I'm siding with the police on this one there was no reason for Kimani Gray to draw his weapon, the officers responded logically, and it cost him his life.
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Where is Al Sharpton? Isn't he supposed to be working with Commisioner Ray Kelly to get guns off the streets and out of the hands of the cities black youths?
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:58 AM
 
Location: New York
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Where is Al Sharpton? Isn't he supposed to be working with Commisioner Ray Kelly to get guns off the streets and out of the hands of the cities black youths?
Well we can see how well that's working out
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: NJ/NYC
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You point a gun at a cop, you deserve whatever happens to you... Interestingly enough the community responded by trashing their own neighborhood...shocking.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/12/ny...l?ref=nyregion
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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If I am a cop and some 16 year old gangster points a gun at me, I'm not thinking do I fire six times or ten? I do what I need to do to protect my life that is in imminent jeopardy.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm sure the kid was just reaching for his handgun permit.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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You point a gun at a cop, you deserve whatever happens to you... Interestingly enough the community responded by trashing their own neighborhood...shocking.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/12/ny...l?ref=nyregion
Apparently, they threw bottles at police, broke store windows, and trashed a Rite Aid, stealing money and items and assaulting the employees. They also broke the windows of a city bus or busses.

One of the protesters said something about "innocent children" being killed - but this person, although only sixteen, had a number of prior arrests. Not sure how innocent he was.

Wondering what his family story was, and why (at 16) he was just hanging out without supervision.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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I've read several articles on the Kimani Gray shooting. The undercover cops were wrong for shooting him so many times, they shouldn't of fired their weapons more than 6 times. However, Kimani Gray had a gun on him, and he pointed it at the officer before, either one of the officers drew their weapons. Kimani aiming his weapon at law enforcement automatically puts those officers in a position to defend themselves,and they did. I'm totally against police brutally in any shape and form; however, the only problem I have with the story is the amount of times the officers shot Gray. There was no reason to shoot him so many times. In conclusion, I'm siding with the police on this one there was no reason for Kimani Gray to draw his weapon, the officers responded logically, and it cost him his life.
It's unfortunate a young 16 yrs old boy died, but the undercover cops done nothing wrong here.
You are asking for death pointing a gun at anyone, let alone at the police officers who were justify
in defending themselves. You threaten someone with deadly force, people will defend themselves with
deadly force.

I don't think the cops were thinking how many shots it would take to bring down another person when
a gun is pointed at them, they probably just fire as many shots as possible to take down the threat
with adrenaline running high facing life and death situation.

On the other hand, there is no justification for the rioters to beat up innocent store employees and
customers. Those who did should be arrested and charge with assault for their crimes. They don't
represent the whole community, but they did a good job of damaging the image of the community
with those actions. It will reinforce the stereotypes in people's mind when they read the news of
the riot.

Last edited by Jaydata; 03-12-2013 at 11:40 AM.. Reason: spelling
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Apparently, they threw bottles at police, broke store windows, and trashed a Rite Aid, stealing money and items and assaulting the employees. They also broke the windows of a city bus or busses.

One of the protesters said something about "innocent children" being killed - but this person, although only sixteen, had a number of prior arrests. Not sure how innocent he was.

Wondering what his family story was, and why (at 16) he was just hanging out without supervision.
Sounds like a miniture Rodney King riot.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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On the other hand, there is no justification for the rioters to beat up innocent store employees and
customers. Those who did should be arrested and charge with assault for their crimes. They don't
represent the whole community, but they did a good job of damaging the image of the community
with those actions. It will reinforce the stereotypes in people's mind when they read the news of
the riot.
Strongly agree ...
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