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In America a student can literally fail every course in middle school go to a mediocre/top public high school and get into Stanford.
Link? You seriously think that failing MS students will perform well at a mediocre HS & still be admitted to Stanford? Applicant Profile : Stanford University
Less than 7% of applicants are admitted, 75% of those attend.
You could score 2400 on the SATs & still not win admission! http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/c...l?schoolId=781
Perhaps, if the applicant is a top athlete ...
There are lots of talks about better education with small school and small class. But some those top high schools are enormously huge. Brooklyn Tech has 5332 students. A lot more wanted to get in but couldn't.
40% GPA
40% SAT
20% essay, activities, visit university
or
100% donation
This is not accurate.
The donation part is especially untrue, especially for Columbia and Barnard, Dartmouth, Stanford, MIT.
Not a complete list but I knows those venues well and they came immediately to mind.
As I've mentioned in other threads, I didn't attend any classes for these specialized schools. With the application for the test, there was a booklet with a few practice tests. I just did those, and my score was high enough to get into Stuyvesant. (I didn't go, though)
Several years ago I had heard that Asians had all these programs, and they kinda kept it to themselves. After my daughter did not score well for Hunter and Anderson, we "learned the ropes." I think my daughter's every friend / classmate prepped for HS exams. She did too, scored 629 and got into Stuy. $ 5k sounds about what we also paid.
That's nothing really. My daughter's friend went to Dalton, from K to 8th Grade. She is at Stuy now too. I wonder how much they saved!!!
My wife, who really follows my daughter's progress, says that Stuy courses are really college prep, and that any good Stuy students should not have any problem adjusting. That's something we are aware of, since my daughter, who went to Lab Middle, had trouble adjusting at Stuy, more than, for example NEST kids.
Unlike employers, college institutions DO NOT discriminate based on location so it doesn't matter which high school you go to. The criteria for a top college:
40% GPA
40% SAT
20% essay, activities, visit university
Based on those reasonable numbers, that means it's actually strategic to go to a crap school where obtaining a 4.0 GPA is easier. That way, the only thing her kids have to worry about is the SAT.
Where did you get that data from? I don't believe it's true. Some high schools (such as Stuyvesant) tracks admissions statistics of graduating students and anonymously makes them available to current students. Based on what I've seen, colleges take a very unpredictable, holistic approach to college admissions. Also, keep in mind that different colleges have different admissions criterion.
Your point about going to a mediocre school and getting a higher GPA for better chances at college admissions might be accurate. Any student who works hard and utilizes opportunities available at any school will do well. However, it is important to remember that once you get into college, you also need to do well in college. Some of the courses I took in high school gave me an edge in related introductory college courses.
I believe that a solid GPA is important, but GPA alone can only get you so far. It takes an employer two seconds to glance at your GPA on your resume. When an interviewer asks you questions on the spot, you have to be able to answer them and prove that you know your stuff, especially for technical fields. Potential employers will call out your BS if you have a high GPA on paper but cannot demonstrate required knowledge for the job you are interviewing for. Having a solid foundation in high school will help you do better in college, which will help you when you look for jobs.
My undergrad had several Stuyvesant students and one of my college suite-mates (and later good friend/roommate after college) was a Stuy grad. She not only came in with advanced credit (sophomore standing in college) but scored As in every class she took (Psych major, Poli Sci minor) with minimal difficulty. She's East Indian (family lived in Richmond Hill, Queens). After graduating Summa C laude, she went on to Harvard for her Masters. Many Stuy students are well prepared for college.
Law Schools factor in the school which students came from. For example, a 3.5 from SUNY is equivalent to a 3.1 from Columbia. I would be shocked if Colleges don't do the same math for high schools.
Second, as college prep Stuy students ace their SATs en-masse. So their GPA and class rankings become bigger factors and more competitive.
That being said, bottom line, Stuy is just a school. It is up to each student to make the most of it.
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