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Old 08-24-2009, 04:52 AM
 
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whats also funny is that the north bronx is heavly working class area. Most of the North Bronx is middle class but however north Bronx has a high rate of crime and decline, how can we explain this correleation?
You have the wannabe mentality and then you have gentrification, they rebuild one area and relocate many of the people to another area, that's been going on for years in the North Bronx, it LOOKS nicer but the reality is the North Bronx is you stated has been in decline for sometime.

I'm glad I did not have to raise my children in NYC to be very honest with you.

But all and all I still love my city and my borough.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Most days I live on Earth!
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As a north bronx resident all I can say is wow.

To the OP, people here are making it much worse than it is. Yes things happen here, as they do anywhere else, but its not that serious.

Im so tired of hearing people say things about neighborhoods that they have visited once or twice, or ended up lost in, went to see family a couple times, etc, etc.

The northeast is pretty quiet for the most part. Certain blocks are hood 225th, 227th, 218th, but if you have any kind of sense just dont go on those blocks. If stuff doesnt concern you, you have no business over there.

I believe that the southbronx is way more dangerous as opposed to the North. Now, I am not saying that the North is perfect, things do happen here, but not as frequently as people are making it seem. Gun Hill, please. Edenwald projects? You have got to be kidding me! What is there to be scared of?

I never heard of a bus from Spellman to the 5 train but then again I did not go to that school. When I was younger people would occassionally get jumped walking through the woods, but once again, stupid is as stupid does.

In my opinion I would rather the North than the South any given day of the week, or year!
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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You have the wannabe mentality and then you have gentrification, they rebuild one area and relocate many of the people to another area, that's been going on for years in the North Bronx, it LOOKS nicer but the reality is the North Bronx is you stated has been in decline for sometime.

I'm glad I did not have to raise my children in NYC to be very honest with you.

But all and all I still love my city and my borough.
wannabe mentality is true in the north bronx espicially in coop city were many of the young folks try to immitate a thug hustla life style and some of those youngings think they more hard then folks in central or in south bronx. As for gentrification I thought those jamaicans and other west indians would hold down thier neigborhood just like the way how the jews and the italians had held down the north east Bronx but that wasnt so. Across the new england thurway the jamaicans bring thier rough attitude and hardships from jamaica to gun hill road and beyond and cause all sorts of trouble. Dont get me wrong jamaicans are nice people and every hard working and industrious but the youths are really rough. I use to go to truman highschool and there use to be constant fights between african americans and jamaicans. ONetime i was standing outside to enter school and a shoot out erupts between crips and a jamaican gang. One day i was sleeping at my sisters house on 223 and laconia and just a few feet away from outside of the building i herd loud gun****s and someone got shot and killed right outside. I use to have a friend from who i used to attend john jay college with and who later became a cop and was stationed at the police station across from the edenwald projects and he told me officers constantinly run across the streets to catch criminals and stop active crimes in the process. All I can say is that the youths really bring down the quality life in the northeast bronx along with constant fighting between african americans and jamaicans who want to control the drug trade in taht area. Sometimes I feel really unsafe in the north bronx then I do in the south bronx. Either way the north bronx is in decline, and that is bad for all those property owners who own those 2 or 3 family homes out there.
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:48 AM
 
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You have the wannabe mentality and then you have gentrification, they rebuild one area and relocate many of the people to another area, that's been going on for years in the North Bronx, it LOOKS nicer but the reality is the North Bronx is you stated has been in decline for sometime.

I'm glad I did not have to raise my children in NYC to be very honest with you.

But all and all I still love my city and my borough.

The housing stock in the North Bronx is more appealing to middle class people than the South Bronx. Its lower density than the south bronx, with more houses, and less tenement buildings. Outside of areas adjacent to White Plains Rd, and the various PJ's, northern Bronx neighborhoods are mostly made up of 1-3 family homes. People who may not be well off, but have a decent amount of income are not willing to live in a pissy hallway tenement building. If you cant or don't want to move to the suburbs then the north bronx type of housing stock is (by NYC standards) an affordable in between.

Also, in the south bronx, hood areas just jump out at you more than in the North. There is no mistaking when you around some ghetto ish. There are areas in the North Bronx, that statistically have alot of crime, but if you walk around on any random night, you wouldn't immediately think so. You'd have to live there or visit regularly to get an idea of how bad it can actually get. North Bronx hoods are somewhat similar to southeast Queens hood parts where it appears more quiet and calm than what you'd expect.

So to sum it up...both south and north Bronx, has bad areas, but the North Bronx has some redeeming qualities that makes some (mainly lower) middle class people willing to live there, because its relativity affordable housing in the city. There is basically no redeeming qualities about most of the south Bronx.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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So far my life in Norwood has been peaceful and it's a beautiful area. I wonder if a lot of the negative commenters here are younger. High school and young on young crime maybe?
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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Norwood is still good, and I hope it stays good.

Please, stay away from White Plains Rd!!!
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:39 PM
 
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So far my life in Norwood has been peaceful and it's a beautiful area. I wonder if a lot of the negative commenters here are younger. High school and young on young crime maybe?
actually we are really talking about northeast bronx (virtually anything east of white plains road).
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:00 PM
 
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This area safe. Stay between baychester and dyre ave. no problems here because all have houses and according to the census the medium income is 78000 and that was according to the last census.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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actually we are really talking about northeast bronx (virtually anything east of white plains road).
Yeah, it's strange because the name of the thread is north bronx, period.
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Yeah, it's strange because the name of the thread is north bronx, period.
Yeah it does. The worst neighborhood in the North Bronx is Fordham-Bedford easily. Then I would put Wakefield.
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