Dangerous Areas of North Bronx (Boston, Philadelphia: low crime, felony, most dangerous)

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by cotb16

Correction, Norwood is in the 52nd Precinct with University Heights, Fordham, and Bedford Park, not in the 47th Precinct with the Northeastern Bronx.

Thanks, cotb.I actually had a funny feeling that it might not be in the 47th.Thought maybe the 47th went down to Mosholu Parkway.I should have looked at the map.Woodlawn is in the 47th isn't it ? It is weird how most of the 47th is in the Northeast Bronx but it kind of bulges up and over to West up there.
That's OK because if it's in the 52nd then it is probably the lowest or one of the lowest crime areas in that precinct.
My only point in all of this is that Norwood really should not be included in the "Dangerous Areas of North Bronx" and that there is a lot less crime there than there was 10 or 15 or 20 years ago.

[DoubleXAs]

Thanks Cot.

Never said that Norwood was dangerous. The 47th precinct is in the north east, which is stll the north Bronx.

And even though stats are not 100% they give us a good gauge. Also I dont really argue against the NYPD stats as others here do. I think you got me confused.

Finally, Norwood may not be as bad as University Heights, but since 2000, the gap as closed, and it has been responsible for a larger percentage of the 52nd crime than it did back in the crack days.

You can maybe blame it on the demographic shift.

[victorfox]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Norwood may not be as bad as University Heights, but since 2000, the gap as closed, and it has been responsible for a larger percentage of the 52nd crime than it did back in the crack days.

You can maybe blame it on the demographic shift.

Exactly Mario. Thats what I've noticed as well. While the South Bronx and Harlem gentrifies or revitalizes, the non-working undesirables from that area that were displaced or evicted migrate to the north as in the north Bronx such as Norwood. They bring along their ghetto sub-culture lifestyle that made the south Bronx and Harlem a slum which ultimately corrupts the Norwood neighborhood and makes it less appealing for new middle/working families to move in.

Combine that with section 8 over paying by $200 or more for any Bronx apartment which Landlords (that are barely making it and are treading water just to stay in business) jump on the opportunity which creates the perfect storm for the beginnings of a new "hood" in the creation unless something is done to stop this trend from spreading. It like a cancer spreading north and its unfair for the working middle class to have to move because the transplants are thugs instead of yuppies. It's taking steps backwards instead of forward.

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by victorfox

Exactly Mario. Thats what I've noticed as well. While the South Bronx and Harlem gentrifies or revitalizes, the non-working undesirables from that area that were displaced or evicted migrate to the north as in the north Bronx such as Norwood. They bring along their ghetto sub-culture lifestyle that made the south Bronx and Harlem a slum which ultimately corrupts the Norwood neighborhood and makes it less appealing for new middle/working families to move in.

Combine that with section 8 over paying by $200 or more for any Bronx apartment which Landlords (that are barely making it and are treading water just to stay in business) jump on the opportunity .....

This is very interesting because people are constantly posting in this forum that they have section 8 vouchers and want apartments in The Bronx but can't find any buildings or landlords that will take section 8 tenants anymore.
Should we direct them to Norwood ? Do you have any addresses of buildings we could send them to ?

And does section 8 really pay 20 % more than the market rate to place it's tenants? Geez,you would think that the landlords would be doing everything possible to get rid of all the market rate tenants and just fill up on section 8 !
And you would think that it would be the market rate tenants always posting on here looking for buildings and landlords that weren't only accepting section 8.

[reinsor]

How is 1935 bussing avenue? Is PS87X okay for a caucasian to walk into accompanied?

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by reinsor

How is 1935 bussing avenue? Is PS87X okay for a caucasian to walk into accompanied?

Yes,definitely.

[cotb16]

Originally Posted by victorfox

Exactly Mario. Thats what I've noticed as well. While the South Bronx and Harlem gentrifies or revitalizes, the non-working undesirables from that area that were displaced or evicted migrate to the north as in the north Bronx such as Norwood. They bring along their ghetto sub-culture lifestyle that made the south Bronx and Harlem a slum which ultimately corrupts the Norwood neighborhood and makes it less appealing for new middle/working families to move in.

Combine that with section 8 over paying by $200 or more for any Bronx apartment which Landlords (that are barely making it and are treading water just to stay in business) jump on the opportunity which creates the perfect storm for the beginnings of a new "hood" in the creation unless something is done to stop this trend from spreading. It like a cancer spreading north and its unfair for the working middle class to have to move because the transplants are thugs instead of yuppies. It's taking steps backwards instead of forward.

Not only do parts of Norwood, Bedford Park and Kingsbridge are starting to accept those with public assistance, but so are those in Van Nest, Soundview, Westchester Square, Allerton, and Pelham Bay, mostly because of the foreclosure crisis that haunted most of the Southeast Bronx.

[nycjowww]

Originally Posted by Bronxguyanese

wannabe mentality is true in the north bronx espicially in coop city were many of the young folks try to immitate a thug hustla life style and some of those youngings think they more hard then folks in central or in south bronx. As for gentrification I thought those jamaicans and other west indians would hold down thier neigborhood just like the way how the jews and the italians had held down the north east Bronx but that wasnt so. Across the new england thurway the jamaicans bring thier rough attitude and hardships from jamaica to gun hill road and beyond and cause all sorts of trouble. Dont get me wrong jamaicans are nice people and every hard working and industrious but the youths are really rough. I use to go to truman highschool and there use to be constant fights between african americans and jamaicans. ONetime i was standing outside to enter school and a shoot out erupts between crips and a jamaican gang. One day i was sleeping at my sisters house on 223 and laconia and just a few feet away from outside of the building i herd loud gun****s and someone got shot and killed right outside. I use to have a friend from who i used to attend john jay college with and who later became a cop and was stationed at the police station across from the edenwald projects and he told me officers constantinly run across the streets to catch criminals and stop active crimes in the process. All I can say is that the youths really bring down the quality life in the northeast bronx along with constant fighting between african americans and jamaicans who want to control the drug trade in taht area. Sometimes I feel really unsafe in the north bronx then I do in the south bronx. Either way the north bronx is in decline, and that is bad for all those property owners who own those 2 or 3 family homes out there.

this isnt true at all , jamaicans, and west indians mainly haitian , trinidadian, guyanese, grenadian , st vincent, and st lucian do hold their neighborhoods down. all you gotta do is just go to areas like flatbush , east flatbush , crown heights, and canarsie to see this.

as a matter of fact west indian people even hold down the african american neighborhoods to just take a look at bed stuy which is seeing more west indiand and west indian businesses by the minute.

so i dont agree with this post, but what i will agree is that a lot of west indian youths have that wanna bee gangsta attitude.

i see the same thing with the Haitians here in brooklyn , all the haitians in nostrand are mainly wanna bee crips with some who are wanna bee blood.

[NorCal77]

What specific areas of NYC compare to the more rough areas in Oakland,Ca? South Bronx, West Brooklyn,West Queens,East Harlem?

[WestburynLI to BronxnNYC]

Originally Posted by bronxnysown

I was raised in the North East BX, Co-Op City, Section 5, from '74 - '95. I was born in Harlem, but raised in the Bx and now live in Atlanta. Although The NE section of the BX does not have the urban decay of lots of other areas in the city including the South BX and Harlem, it WAS largely an area in decline back then and many folks thought we were the 'rich' kids of the Bronx, especially if you lived in Co-Op City, which to a lot of peoples dismay could be farther from the truth. We had Section 8 housing and all the ails of any other inner city neighbor(HOOD) in New York City. There was rivalries amongst the neighboring blocks, The Valley, Boston Rd, Eastchester, Edenwald, Mark Terrace, Ollinville, Boston Secor, Gun Hill, etc..etc.. Many of these areas taking large numbers of casualties in the wars that went on during the late 80's and 90's. The major misconception as stated earlier, was we were a bunch of affluent kids. A lot of cats from other parts of the Bx and NYC, often came to the NE BX with that mentality and were carried out on meat wagons because of that thinking. Like Rakim said it ain't where ya from, it's where ya at.

Ahha Rakim from Long Island thats how he knows...