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View Poll Results: Do you support Bloomberg?
Yes 16 45.71%
No 19 54.29%
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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I'll take corporate over taxpayer funding any day. Corporate partnerships are a fantastic way to raise revenue and get development moving. Where do you think people get their income? By far and away from companies through gainful employment. Companies ensure prosperity for the people, they are the foundation of our capitalist system. Perhaps you would be happier in a socialist country like Spain or Greece where you can get all sorts of handouts, although you might have a problem finding a job or ever moving up the ladder in life.

What's not to like about Charter Schools? Sounds like you're a union guy - the UFT has basically ruined public education for the past 50 years. Charter schools are an excellent way to hire non-union teachers who aren't bound to prehistoric work regulations and actually get our kids somewhere in life

I've never had a problem with the police, and they seem to be doing one hell of a job keeping crime away in NYC. I suppose you miss seeing graffiti everywhere and homeless people free to accost you at will

To each his own


Are you blind like a bat like Bloomie? There are 50,000 homeless people roaming the streets of NYC as of currently, and most can not even stay in the shelters. and out of that 50,000 are children. Luxury Arenas such as Yankee Stadium in the up and coming South Bronx and Barclays in heavy gentrified Brooklyn can shelter al of NYC homeless population. NYC homeless rate shot up under Bloomberg tenure. NYC has some of the highest rates of homelessness in the country. Homelessness during Bloomberg tenure is far worse than what it was under Dinkins from my vivid nostalgic perspective.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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One of the all-time dumbest ideas from government, but in the grand scheme of things an insignificant influence on every day life. The smoking ban & trans fats ban (a poison that should not legally be served to any human being who values his life) were justified and will absolutely save lives and quality years.

But again these are small social policies. In terms of the big things - crime, finance, services, quality of life (90% of what a mayor needs to do right), Bloomberg has been an absolute superstar
I agree with you here. Repped.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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IMO, he's great. It's sad to see him go. Hopefully, he will continue to be involved in city issues and advise the next mayor.

He's been a good mayor IMO. Remember though, Bloomberg doesn't pull these ideas out of his ass. He appointed highly competent advisers and followed through with their expert suggestions. NYC has been a joy to live in. Optimistic, innovative, fun.
I honestly can't see Bloomberg not having involvement. Just as Giuliani had a certain amount of involvement (if only to endorse Bloomberg three times) after he was no longer the mayor.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Are you blind like a bat like Bloomie? There are 50,000 homeless people roaming the streets of NYC as of currently, and most can not even stay in the shelters. and out of that 50,000 are children. Luxury Arenas such as Yankee Stadium in the up and coming South Bronx and Barclays in heavy gentrified Brooklyn can shelter al of NYC homeless population. NYC homeless rate shot up under Bloomberg tenure. NYC has some of the highest rates of homelessness in the country. Homelessness during Bloomberg tenure is far worse than what it was under Dinkins from my vivid nostalgic perspective.
I don't doubt that homelessness is up, probably mostly for the fact that large cities with services to offer attract people in such unfortunate situations disproportionately and we are in more difficult economic times. If you converted Yankee Stadium and the Barclays center to free public housing as you suggest (both privately funded BTW, not by the taxpayers), then there would probably be twice as many homeless moving to NYC to take advantage.

Note that I wrote homeless people "free to accost you at will". You should not make the mistake to read that to mean I am saying there are less homeless. Under Giuliani & Bloomberg the homeless have not been permitted to be aggressive in their panhandling. If pedestrians are harassed, the panhandlers are swept up by the NYPD - it is not tolerated. You can see the difference immediately if you go to a city like Boston or Philadelphia, they are in your face.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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I'll take corporate over taxpayer funding any day. Corporate partnerships are a fantastic way to raise revenue and get development moving. Where do you think people get their income? By far and away from companies through gainful employment. Companies ensure prosperity for the people, they are the foundation of our capitalist system. Perhaps you would be happier in a socialist country like Spain or Greece where you can get all sorts of handouts, although you might have a problem finding a job or ever moving up the ladder in life.

What's not to like about Charter Schools? Sounds like you're a union guy - the UFT has basically ruined public education for the past 50 years. Charter schools are an excellent way to hire non-union teachers who aren't bound to prehistoric work regulations and actually get our kids somewhere in life

I've never had a problem with the police, and they seem to be doing one hell of a job keeping crime away in NYC. I suppose you miss seeing graffiti everywhere and homeless people free to accost you at will

To each his own
I'm an union guy, and you know what? Who do you think employs unions? Big companies! So I too will take corporate funding over taxpayer funding any day.

In the words of a republican, I was never hired by anyone poorer than me.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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Some of you may be surprised to know that the mayor's own press releases are not a reliable source of information about the reality of housing in this city!

See for example ANHD’s New Report Analyzes Bloomberg Affordable Housing Legacy « ANHD
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Some of you may be surprised to know that the mayor's own press releases are not a reliable source of information about the reality of housing in this city!

See for example ANHD’s New Report Analyzes Bloomberg Affordable Housing Legacy « ANHD
From your own link:

"Housing policy experts agree that while the New Housing Marketplace was an unprecedented achievement, the next administration has to take a further step, and start measuring progress in a more comprehensive way."

Can't do everything at once, right? But it just seems to me that critics will never be happy so long as the city government doesn't provide housing for everyone that can't afford it. That's just not realistic.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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Some of you may be surprised to know that the mayor's own press releases are not a reliable source of information about the reality of housing in this city!

See for example ANHD’s New Report Analyzes Bloomberg Affordable Housing Legacy « ANHD
I suggest you take a stroll through the Melrose section of the Bronx, or the prepping construction sites of Hunter's Point South in Queens sometime. Total transformations.
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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I suggest you take a stroll through the Melrose section of the Bronx, or the prepping construction sites of Hunter's Point South in Queens sometime. Total transformations.
I have (biked, actually), and I know what you're talking about. I think it's great what's happened there.

It just isn't enough, not even close, and it's disingenuous for Bloomberg to claim he's devoted to affordable housing. It's almost like there's been a top-down decision that the Bronx shall be the one serf-housing sector of the city and everywhere else is luxe.
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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I don't doubt that homelessness is up, probably mostly for the fact that large cities with services to offer attract people in such unfortunate situations disproportionately and we are in more difficult economic times. If you converted Yankee Stadium and the Barclays center to free public housing as you suggest (both privately funded BTW, not by the taxpayers), then there would probably be twice as many homeless moving to NYC to take advantage.

NYC, partially because of federal funding cuts, and partially for the above suggested reasons, has seriously cut back government programs that provided housing vouchers. No new section 8 applications have been processed since 2009, and the Aids welfare program has been gutted as well. City Advantage, another HRA housing voucher program, has been totally eliminated due to cuts from Albany.

Both Albany and City Hall are well aware that the more "services" you provide, the more homeless and such you attract from other states and even other countries.
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