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Old 05-23-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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There are 5 boroughs in NYC and if folks feel like they can only live in 1 or 2 of those boroughs that's on them. The govt shouldn't have to intervene so that people can live in the borough of their choice. No one is entitled to a Manhattan apt, or one in the best neighborhoods of Queens/Brooklyn. If you can't afford it then you just can't. Double/triple/quadruple up if it means so much to you to have a certain address and super short commute.

I live in the Bronx and it's 15 minutes to my job on the Express 6 and if I had to go lower into Manhttan I could be at 59th street in 25minutes.

There is affordable housing but again it's all about making choices.

Whatever.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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Is there any decent area in any of the 5 boroughs that is affordable for a middle class family with 2 children? I don't know of any such place.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:41 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Is there any decent area in any of the 5 boroughs that is affordable for a middle class family with 2 children? I don't know of any such place.
middle class is NYC is quite different than middle class in Toledo. There are many places for middle class families in Queens especially
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: the 718 and the 650
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Is there any decent area in any of the 5 boroughs that is affordable for a middle class family with 2 children? I don't know of any such place.

Depends on what you consider middle class. Combined income of say 110-120k most definitely. Combined income of 50k...to own a home? Not too much. Middle class is very subjective these days, everyone thinks they're middle class.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Depends on what you consider middle class. Combined income of say 110-120k most definitely. Combined income of 50k...to own a home? Not too much. Middle class is very subjective these days, everyone thinks they're middle class.
If you live paycheck to paycheck, or if you have enough money or cashflow that you don't have to work, you are not middle class. Anywhere in between that people consider themselves middle class, which is strange to other people people because how can someone making $40,000 and someone making $200,000 both be middle class. But that's how people generally define themselves
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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If you live paycheck to paycheck, or if you have enough money or cashflow that you don't have to work, you are not middle class. Anywhere in between that people consider themselves middle class, which is strange to other people people because how can someone making $40,000 and someone making $200,000 both be middle class. But that's how people generally define themselves
Is the amount you listed for single person or a family of 4?
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Queens rents are still astronomically expensive compared to almost all of the rest of the country. You can get a 2br in most smaller cities for what a studio costs in Flushing or Elmhurst.

Ditto for Bronx, southern Brooklyn.

Manhattan is the most expensive but the whole city is incredibly expensive and this is something our government should be dealing with head-on.
Well I'm from Boston and I just moved to Elmhurst, and apartments there are very reasonable!
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Exactly but the snobs will tell you that you live in the hood and that they couldn't possibly bear to live there.

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Well I'm from Boston and I just moved to Elmhurst, and apartments there are very reasonable!
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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Only people complaining about rent prices in NYC are those who feel a need to live in Manhattan (transplants). It makes me LOL every time I hear a transplant say "eww queens" when Manhattan is literally 20 mins away by LIRR.
Tell that to people who have (gasp) had to leave Queens, especially Western Queens, because of high rent prices. Astoria and LIC are pretty expensive, and full of "transplants". Jackson Heights, which still has a high immigrant population, is not cheap either. Queens doesn't have cheap rentals unless you go far out to places like Ozone Park or the Rockaways. But these places are hardly 20 minutes from Manhattan, either.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: (Amberly) Cary, NC
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I agree wtih Binx Bolling. We left Queens recently. Headed to NC--- what we paid in rent for an apartment in a crummy school area covers our mortgage , taxes, homeowners insurance and most of the HOA dues we pay for maintenance.. We went form a 1000 sq ft apt to a 2100 sq ft townhouse. all 5 boroughs are overpriced compared to much of the country. and my commute to work went from 35 mins by subway to 12 minutes by car.
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