Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It would be easier to have the Tri-Boro RX in Regional Rail format then Subway format due to the Hell Gate line and some parts of the ROW which are too narrow for Freight and Subway to Co-Exist... I would tunnel under NY Harbor and continue to St. George , Bayonne , Elizabeth and out to Raritan,NJ which fills in multiple neglected transit networks. I would also connect the Tri-Boro RX to the Long Island Railroad allowing for Eastern Queens / Long Island Access to the Bronx , Westchester and Connecticut and those areas access to Job Markets in Queens and Long Island. You could also run seasonal one seat trains to Montuak and Long Beach from White Plains via I-287 Railway and Stamford. With Modern Signaling you can run trains every 2-5 mins , I would keep the City Fare = MTA or NJT depending on which side you're on. Out of City fares would be based on mileage... Aside the Tunnels needed under the Harbor and the I-287 Corridor this version is ready to be built and cheaper.
Regional Connector Hillburn - Connections to Metro North : Port Jervis Line , Main Line and Bergen County line , Proposed Pascack Valley Line Extension East Suffern
Airmont Nanuet - Connections to Metro North : Pascack Valley Line West Nyack - Connections to Proposed Metro North : West Shore Line South Nyack
Tarrytown East
Elmsford White Plains Central- Connections to Metro North : Harlem Line East White Plains
Purchase
Rye - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line
Harrison
Mamaroneck
Larchmont
New Rochelle - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line & Amtrak Regional South Rochelle
Orchard Beach-City Island Co-Op City - Connection to the 6 Train at Pelham Bay Morris Park
Parkchester Hunt's Point - Connection to the 6 Train at Hunts Point Ave Northern Boulvard - Woodside Broadway - Jackson Heights - Connections to the 7 Train at 69th Street Queens Boulevard - Elmhurst Ridgewood Middle Village - Connections to the M Train at Metropolitan Ave East New York - Connections to the A , C , L , J , Z trains at Broadway JCT & Long Island Railroad Canarsie Flatbush Ave - Connection to the 2 & 5 Trains at Flatbush Av - Brooklyn College Ocean Parkway Borough Park - Connection to the N train at New Utrecht Ave & F Train at 62nd Street Bay Ridge - Connection to the R train at Bay Ridge Ave St. George - Connection to Staten Island Railway and Ferry , Proposed : North Shore LRT Bayonne - Connection to the Hudson Bergen Light Rail Port Elizabeth - Connection to the Proposed Newark-Elizabeth Light Rail Midtown Elizabeth - Connections to the Northeast Corridor , North Jersey Coast Line , Proposed MOM Rail Network , Newark-Elizabeth Light Rail and Route 27 Streetcar Elmora - Connections to the Proposed : Union County Light Rail Roselle - Connections to the Proposed : Union County Light Rail
Cranford - Connections to the Raritan Valley Line , Proposed : Union County Light Rail , West Trenton , Lambertville and Philpsburg Lines
Garwood
Westfield
Fanwood
Netherwood
Plainfield
Dunellen
Bound Brook - Connections to the Proposed : New Brunswick Light Rail
Raritan
Northern Connector Western Link Hillburn - Connections to Metro North : Port Jervis Line , Main Line and Bergen County line , Proposed Pascack Valley Line Extension East Suffern
Airmont Nanuet - Connections to Metro North : Pascack Valley Line West Nyack - Connections to Proposed Metro North : West Shore Line South Nyack
Tarrytown East
Elmsford White Plains Central- Connections to Metro North : Harlem Line East White Plains
Purchase
Rye - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line
Harrison
Mamaroneck
Larchmont
New Rochelle - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line & Amtrak Regional South Rochelle
Orchard Beach-City Island Co-Op City - Connection to the 6 Train at Pelham Bay Morris Park
Parkchester Hunt's Point - Connection to the 6 Train at Hunts Point Ave Northern Boulvard - Woodside Broadway - Jackson Heights - Connections to the 7 Train at 69th Street Queens Boulevard - Elmhurst
Forest Hills - Connections to the E , M , F and R trains at Forest Hills - 71 Av
Kew Gardens
Jamaica - Connections to the E , J and Z trains at Jamaica Center & JFK Air Train (Rush Hour Service to Ronkonkoma & Babylon , Seasonal Service to Montuak and Long Beach)
Northern Connector Eastern Link
Stamford - Connections to Metro North : New Haven , Danbury and New Canaan Lines , and Amtrak Services
Greenwich
Port Chester
Rye - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line
Harrison
Mamaroneck
Larchmont
New Rochelle - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line & Amtrak Regional South Rochelle
Orchard Beach-City Island Co-Op City - Connection to the 6 Train at Pelham Bay Morris Park
Parkchester Hunt's Point - Connection to the 6 Train at Hunts Point Ave Northern Boulvard - Woodside Broadway - Jackson Heights - Connections to the 7 Train at 69th Street Queens Boulevard - Elmhurst
Forest Hills - Connections to the E , M , F and R trains at Forest Hills - 71 Av
Kew Gardens
Jamaica - Connections to the E , J and Z trains at Jamaica Center & JFK Air Train (Rush Hour Service to Ronkonkoma & Babylon , Seasonal Service to Montuak and Long Beach)
It would be easier to have the Tri-Boro RX in Regional Rail format then Subway format due to the Hell Gate line and some parts of the ROW which are too narrow for Freight and Subway to Co-Exist... I would tunnel under NY Harbor and continue to St. George , Bayonne , Elizabeth and out to Raritan,NJ which fills in multiple neglected transit networks. I would also connect the Tri-Boro RX to the Long Island Railroad allowing for Eastern Queens / Long Island Access to the Bronx , Westchester and Connecticut and those areas access to Job Markets in Queens and Long Island. You could also run seasonal one seat trains to Montuak and Long Beach from White Plains via I-287 Railway and Stamford. With Modern Signaling you can run trains every 2-5 mins , I would keep the City Fare = MTA or NJT depending on which side you're on. Out of City fares would be based on mileage... Aside the Tunnels needed under the Harbor and the I-287 Corridor this version is ready to be built and cheaper.
Regional Connector Hillburn - Connections to Metro North : Port Jervis Line , Main Line and Bergen County line , Proposed Pascack Valley Line Extension East Suffern
Airmont Nanuet - Connections to Metro North : Pascack Valley Line West Nyack - Connections to Proposed Metro North : West Shore Line South Nyack
Tarrytown East
Elmsford White Plains Central- Connections to Metro North : Harlem Line East White Plains
Purchase
Rye - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line
Harrison
Mamaroneck
Larchmont
New Rochelle - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line & Amtrak Regional South Rochelle
Orchard Beach-City Island Co-Op City - Connection to the 6 Train at Pelham Bay Morris Park
Parkchester Hunt's Point - Connection to the 6 Train at Hunts Point Ave Northern Boulvard - Woodside Broadway - Jackson Heights - Connections to the 7 Train at 69th Street Queens Boulevard - Elmhurst Ridgewood Middle Village - Connections to the M Train at Metropolitan Ave East New York - Connections to the A , C , L , J , Z trains at Broadway JCT & Long Island Railroad Canarsie Flatbush Ave - Connection to the 2 & 5 Trains at Flatbush Av - Brooklyn College Ocean Parkway Borough Park - Connection to the N train at New Utrecht Ave & F Train at 62nd Street Bay Ridge - Connection to the R train at Bay Ridge Ave St. George - Connection to Staten Island Railway and Ferry , Proposed : North Shore LRT Bayonne - Connection to the Hudson Bergen Light Rail Port Elizabeth - Connection to the Proposed Newark-Elizabeth Light Rail Midtown Elizabeth - Connections to the Northeast Corridor , North Jersey Coast Line , Proposed MOM Rail Network , Newark-Elizabeth Light Rail and Route 27 Streetcar Elmora - Connections to the Proposed : Union County Light Rail Roselle - Connections to the Proposed : Union County Light Rail
Cranford - Connections to the Raritan Valley Line , Proposed : Union County Light Rail , West Trenton , Lambertville and Philpsburg Lines
Garwood
Westfield
Fanwood
Netherwood
Plainfield
Dunellen
Bound Brook - Connections to the Proposed : New Brunswick Light Rail
Raritan
Northern Connector Western Link Hillburn - Connections to Metro North : Port Jervis Line , Main Line and Bergen County line , Proposed Pascack Valley Line Extension East Suffern
Airmont Nanuet - Connections to Metro North : Pascack Valley Line West Nyack - Connections to Proposed Metro North : West Shore Line South Nyack
Tarrytown East
Elmsford White Plains Central- Connections to Metro North : Harlem Line East White Plains
Purchase
Rye - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line
Harrison
Mamaroneck
Larchmont
New Rochelle - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line & Amtrak Regional South Rochelle
Orchard Beach-City Island Co-Op City - Connection to the 6 Train at Pelham Bay Morris Park
Parkchester Hunt's Point - Connection to the 6 Train at Hunts Point Ave Northern Boulvard - Woodside Broadway - Jackson Heights - Connections to the 7 Train at 69th Street Queens Boulevard - Elmhurst
Forest Hills - Connections to the E , M , F and R trains at Forest Hills - 71 Av
Kew Gardens
Jamaica - Connections to the E , J and Z trains at Jamaica Center & JFK Air Train (Rush Hour Service to Ronkonkoma & Babylon , Seasonal Service to Montuak and Long Beach)
Northern Connector Eastern Link
Stamford - Connections to Metro North : New Haven , Danbury and New Canaan Lines , and Amtrak Services
Greenwich
Port Chester
Rye - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line
Harrison
Mamaroneck
Larchmont
New Rochelle - Connections to Metro North : New Haven Line & Amtrak Regional South Rochelle
Orchard Beach-City Island Co-Op City - Connection to the 6 Train at Pelham Bay Morris Park
Parkchester Hunt's Point - Connection to the 6 Train at Hunts Point Ave Northern Boulvard - Woodside Broadway - Jackson Heights - Connections to the 7 Train at 69th Street Queens Boulevard - Elmhurst
Forest Hills - Connections to the E , M , F and R trains at Forest Hills - 71 Av
Kew Gardens
Jamaica - Connections to the E , J and Z trains at Jamaica Center & JFK Air Train (Rush Hour Service to Ronkonkoma & Babylon , Seasonal Service to Montuak and Long Beach)
I would like to see path train extension from 33rd sf to grand central terminal. It would be great connecting path to metro north and lirr, and east side subway lines which givd access to bronx, and Queens.
Whenever the LIRR runs directly into Penn Station, the MTA has said it will send Metro North into Penn station via the tracks on the West Side of Manhattan and through Queens, via the Hells Gates bridge. So the MTA does have pending plans on using the Hell Gates bridge for regional rail.
I understand funding's tight and this is not a priority. Creating any call to action to build the line would have to be a slow accretion of demand. If a buildup in requests for this does happen, then the Triboro RX could actually happen--it'd just take quite a while. Part of what makes the Triboro RX even tractable though is the fairly low cost of it given that its route already has most of its right-of-way secured and that the route goes into several dense areas where no rapid transit currently exist. The Second Avenue Subway does have much higher demand, but building it is incredibly costly since it involves a lot of tunnel boring and construction in some of the most expensive and crowded areas of the city.
Another, fantasy though possibly useful in the future addition that would not cost absurd amounts of money would be to have a station for the J/M built directly above the Broadway G stop--including possibly closing one or both of the adjacent J/M stops which are currently already close together. Both of these lines are underutilized, but making a connection between the two could reinforce ridership for the both of them since it gives people living on the G train an alternative to getting to downtown Manhattan, the Lower East Side, and growing south Williamsburg and Bushwick while offering J/M riders a good alternative to getting to LIC, North Brooklyn, and downtown Brooklyn.
I don't think any of these three will happen soon, but they do represent relatively inexpensive ways to improve and better utilize the current transit system. There's always the argument that having these connections could actually spur development patterns to make use of these new possible commute patterns. In a city that is once again witnessing steady population growth, these could be pretty valuable.
In Manhattan, at Broadway-Lafayette, the MTA finally connected both sides of the 6 to the B, D, F, and M trains. At MetroTech, they finally connected the R to the A, C, and F trains. In LIC, Citibank paid for the MTA to connect the 7 to the E, M, and G at Court Square. So its certainly feasible for the MTA to connect the G at Broadway to the J and M at Lorimer. The MTA does stuff when they are convinced the numbers warrant it. The Christie Street cut (the M connection to the F local tracks) lay unused except for work trains for decades, until they finally decided a lot of people from Williamsburg had to transfer from other trains to go to Midtown. So then decided to cancel the V and extend the M up 6th Avenue, back to Forest Hills.
I would like to see path train extension from 33rd sf to grand central terminal. It would be great connecting path to metro north and lirr, and east side subway lines which givd access to bronx, and Queens.
Thats impossible due to the IND Line which is right in front of the PATH.
Whenever the LIRR runs directly into Penn Station, the MTA has said it will send Metro North into Penn station via the tracks on the West Side of Manhattan and through Queens, via the Hells Gates bridge. So the MTA does have pending plans on using the Hell Gates bridge for regional rail.
Amtrak uses the Hell Gate 45 times a day , CSX uses it 6 times a day....Regional Rail will operate 3 times per hour..
That's why I said the G is undercapacity. They do not run full length trains on the G. G service could be both more frequent, and they could use longer cars. So if they are not even using the full capacity of the G, a Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx line is way out of the question.
Before the V came into existence, the G used 6 75 foot long car trains. The R46 cars taken from the G were used to create the trains from the V. Longer cars are a no no. They are already using long (R68 and R68A) cars, 75 feet length, to be exact and those cars are too big for the system. This system is built for cars of the 60 foot length (Lettered lines excluding the Grand Central Shuttle), and 51 feet (Numbered lines).
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
