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Really? I have never seen a train on
That track. I wish that track would be used for a passenger line. I go to the Bronx and Brooklyn all the time and having an option to not have to go throught Manhattan would shorten my trip significantly.
Really? I have never seen a train on
That track. I wish that track would be used for a passenger line. I go to the Bronx and Brooklyn all the time and having an option to not have to go throught Manhattan would shorten my trip significantly.
Have you come across the Triboro RX before? Since it looks like something just about perfect for you, you should lobby your local representatives. Getting this and maybe some way of having the G go all the way to Forest Hills again would be interesting.
Have you come across the Triboro RX before? Since it looks like something just about perfect for you, you should lobby your local representatives. Getting this and maybe some way of having the G go all the way to Forest Hills again would be interesting.
We are in no danger of having Triboro RX happening anytime soon. No amount of letter writing is going to change that at this point. Part of the Second Avenue funding was justified because the Lexington Avenue line is so credit, so they knew the Second Avenue Subway would get lots of riders. Not sure there much demand to go from Brooklyn and Queens to the Bronx.
That and the MTA doesn't even operate the G at capacity. It doesn't go to Forest Hills because most riders from Queens go to Manhattan.
We are in no danger of having Triboro RX happening anytime soon. No amount of letter writing is going to change that at this point. Part of the Second Avenue funding was justified because the Lexington Avenue line is so credit, so they knew the Second Avenue Subway would get lots of riders. Not sure there much demand to go from Brooklyn and Queens to the Bronx.
That and the MTA doesn't even operate the G at capacity. It doesn't go to Forest Hills because most riders from Queens go to Manhattan.
The G is overcapacity now. I have heard that they will be adding more cars. Ridership has increased with transfers at Metropolitan Ave (L) & Court Sq (E, M).
The G is overcapacity now. I have heard that they will be adding more cars. Ridership has increased with transfers at Metropolitan Ave (L) & Court Sq (E, M).
That's why I said the G is undercapacity. They do not run full length trains on the G. G service could be both more frequent, and they could use longer cars. So if they are not even using the full capacity of the G, a Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx line is way out of the question.
Really? I have never seen a train on
That track. I wish that track would be used for a passenger line. I go to the Bronx and Brooklyn all the time and having an option to not have to go throught Manhattan would shorten my trip significantly.
I see and hear trains on those tracks down by ridgewood/Glendale all of the time. I think they go all the way down to bay ridge.
We are in no danger of having Triboro RX happening anytime soon. No amount of letter writing is going to change that at this point. Part of the Second Avenue funding was justified because the Lexington Avenue line is so credit, so they knew the Second Avenue Subway would get lots of riders. Not sure there much demand to go from Brooklyn and Queens to the Bronx.
That and the MTA doesn't even operate the G at capacity. It doesn't go to Forest Hills because most riders from Queens go to Manhattan.
I understand funding's tight and this is not a priority. Creating any call to action to build the line would have to be a slow accretion of demand. If a buildup in requests for this does happen, then the Triboro RX could actually happen--it'd just take quite a while. Part of what makes the Triboro RX even tractable though is the fairly low cost of it given that its route already has most of its right-of-way secured and that the route goes into several dense areas where no rapid transit currently exist. The Second Avenue Subway does have much higher demand, but building it is incredibly costly since it involves a lot of tunnel boring and construction in some of the most expensive and crowded areas of the city.
The G's more of a stretch, but adding extended service areas is different from running more traincars on the G. It's allowing for different transit patterns and given the growth of areas along the current G train stops in both entertainment and job options, there would be a steadily growing number of riders who could utilize the G. The G's had steady above system-wide average growth in ridership for several years now. There's also pretty much nil construction that needs to be done.
Another, fantasy though possibly useful in the future addition that would not cost absurd amounts of money would be to have a station for the J/M built directly above the Broadway G stop--including possibly closing one or both of the adjacent J/M stops which are currently already close together. Both of these lines are underutilized, but making a connection between the two could reinforce ridership for the both of them since it gives people living on the G train an alternative to getting to downtown Manhattan, the Lower East Side, and growing south Williamsburg and Bushwick while offering J/M riders a good alternative to getting to LIC, North Brooklyn, and downtown Brooklyn.
I don't think any of these three will happen soon, but they do represent relatively inexpensive ways to improve and better utilize the current transit system. There's always the argument that having these connections could actually spur development patterns to make use of these new possible commute patterns. In a city that is once again witnessing steady population growth, these could be pretty valuable.
Last edited by OyCrumbler; 06-16-2013 at 02:30 AM..
Nykiddo would most likely voice his opinion very soon on this matter.
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